Warframe

Warframe

View Stats:
This topic has been locked
Warframe. market auctions must be stopped
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1783278517
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1783278724

Is that even ok? So if people will continue Rubico`s rivens will cost like exclusive item which you can`t get.
I understand that not everybody has so much plat but wtf? Why this mod should cost 100+ $?
Last edited by Sloznoprikolog; Jun 27, 2019 @ 3:58pm
< >
Showing 1-15 of 25 comments
Pakaku Jun 27, 2019 @ 4:03pm 
Sorry, but why do they need to set a price that you are comfortable with? It's their riven, and they are using a free market, so they are free to shoot themselves in their foot with obscene prices nobody will pay if they want to.
Last edited by Pakaku; Jun 27, 2019 @ 4:03pm
Dai Jun 27, 2019 @ 4:11pm 
It is a free market. If no one buys their riven then that goes to show that they should put their price at a more reasonable rate.
blox Jun 27, 2019 @ 4:14pm 
Just wait until DE change weapon diposition for the rivens again and watch the :steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty: rain. It would be a sight to behold! :steamhappy:
Operative Carmine Jun 27, 2019 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by blox:
Just wait until DE change weapon diposition for the rivens again and watch the :steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty: rain. It would be a sight to behold! :steamhappy:
Well that was entertaining XD
Ghost | Severage Jun 27, 2019 @ 4:59pm 
They must be pretty damn stupid to pay that much plat for those bad rivens that are sold there.

Just checked out some other weapon rivens and the prices are as ridiculous

Cant believe that I say this but Riven Market has more "reasonable" prices for stronger Rubico Rivens than Warframe Maket Auctions
Last edited by Ghost | Severage; Jun 27, 2019 @ 5:04pm
Bo Cardwell Jun 27, 2019 @ 5:05pm 
It's more or less the tradeoff of using warframe.market, and it can sometimes be seen in just the normal market interface. I'm pretty skeptical when there's a jarring price undercut on a prime part/mod, and the undercutter(s) have either 'already sold' the item, or are offline. Warframe.market is an excellent tool, and provided us with something DE failed to: a trading system that isn't basically a twitch chat with links. Honestly, if DE implemented a far better player-market system (action house for rivens), one which can't be gamed with dead/other accounts, I would be happy.
Just Life Jun 27, 2019 @ 5:23pm 
Originally posted by blox:
Just wait until DE change weapon diposition for the rivens again and watch the :steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty: rain. It would be a sight to behold! :steamhappy:
^This. It's very silly to buy any Riven at that price knowing that Disposition change time is near and that Rubico has a really good chance of getting lowered.
talkingmute Jun 27, 2019 @ 6:15pm 
My biggest gripe about it is how does it deal with people doing false bids? There's already odd discrepancy where apparently someone buys a random prime part for 300x the price everyone else buys at on the site (like a lex prime barrel for 700p).

People can bid and ask for how much they want but ultimately the bidder can renege without consequence, what happens then? The bidder before is traditionally asked if they want to take the item for the LAST bid they placed (unless there's some kind of escrow, but that would be a violation of Warframe's account TOS). The top bid is pointless as they aren't actually bids, anyone can inflate a listing above a certain point that either it's bought for a ridiculous price or relisted for another time period

What you end up is a few people wanting to get rich off a riven, spend time trying to do so, and inflate the bids trying to get more out of people that are actually trying to bid. Then you have other people that spend time trying to sell to the highest bidder only to find that someone was placing false bids and doesn't actually want it.

I'll just stick to looking around for people as I try to buy/sell for prices I want. If I want to sell one of my Rubico rivens I'll do it for around 1500 or 900.

I'm not going to waste spending weeks trying to "get rich" off of people that give outrageous bids that don't actually buy it or prey on some sucker to give me 20,000 for it.
Last edited by talkingmute; Jun 27, 2019 @ 6:18pm
Originally posted by blox:
Just wait until DE change weapon diposition for the rivens again and watch the :steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty: rain. It would be a sight to behold! :steamhappy:

DE has been doing very incremental adjustments, and none of the recent riven changes have ever lowered or increased a weapon's disposition by an entire dot. I believe they went on record saying that this was how they were going to continue doing it, at least for the mean time. DE is almost certainly well aware of the riven market and is likely avoiding messing with it too much to so that there isn't any massive backlash.
GunsForBucks (Banned) Jun 27, 2019 @ 7:39pm 
Originally posted by Just Life:
Originally posted by blox:
Just wait until DE change weapon diposition for the rivens again and watch the :steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty::steamsalty: rain. It would be a sight to behold! :steamhappy:
^This. It's very silly to buy any Riven at that price knowing that Disposition change time is near and that Rubico has a really good chance of getting lowered.
On the bright side it is already a 2 so it can only go down once more...
Watermelons Jun 27, 2019 @ 8:03pm 
Originally posted by GunsForBucks:
Originally posted by Just Life:
^This. It's very silly to buy any Riven at that price knowing that Disposition change time is near and that Rubico has a really good chance of getting lowered.
On the bright side it is already a 2 so it can only go down once more...
Except the game's dot UI doesn't properly reflect the more precise disposition values. Anywhere between an integer will round it down in the dot UI, right?
Last edited by Watermelons; Jun 27, 2019 @ 8:04pm
Sceles Jun 27, 2019 @ 11:32pm 
Originally posted by Box Hovard:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1783278517
This is most likely his own bid, I have never seen or heard of any riven actually go for 20k+.

Originally posted by Box Hovard:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1783278724
Those are just prices these people are selling their rivens for, doesn't mean anyone will actually ever buy them at that price.
VaciVt Jun 27, 2019 @ 11:47pm 
Supply and demand bruh. Not Warframe.market to blame, but the players that greedy/ignorant/not clever and willing to pay for those prices. Sellers won't put that price if there's no buyers.
KIREEK Jun 28, 2019 @ 1:04am 
Not only can the bids be faked and/or not taken seriously (meaning the buyer can back out), you have to understand how a free market works, meaning players are free to decide the budget and the price of things.

Each decision is made by the player that owns the account, if it's not your account, it's not your responsibility.

Players understand that you're trying to help, wasting so much plat on a mod when it could be used on other things, but again that's a decision players have to make, yes there are cases where resource management is poor, leading to complaints on the forum, but there is nothing you and i can do or should do.

Let players have their fun.
No_Quarter (Banned) Jun 28, 2019 @ 1:24am 
Originally posted by Sceles:
This is most likely his own bid, I have never seen or heard of any riven actually go for 20k+.
Reb actually said on one of the streams, think it was Prime Time, that for previous year most expensive riven sold was like 5k or something.
Originally posted by VaciVt:
Supply and demand bruh. Not Warframe.market to blame, but the players that greedy/ignorant/not clever and willing to pay for those prices. Sellers won't put that price if there's no buyers.
30k is a troll offer that makes no sense in real life.

Let's say you are farming Tridolons and you need that riven to jump from doing 4x3 to 5x3.
That is +25% drop rate increase, you are getting 5 draws on each night.

With a drop rate of arcanes think you need about 300-ish Hydrolist captures to get all of them at R3, you may get lucky for less but let's call that an average.

In case of 4x3 you will need 75 nights to do it.
In case of 5x3 you need 60 nights to do 300 Hydro caps.

So for those extra 15 nights you have 75 more draws to get an arcane.
Chances are you will get about 4-5 arcane energize or grace in total (those are the most expensive ones), few guardians, avengers, velocity's and all that and relative value you get from it can be high depending on your luck, we can call it 500-1000 plat per those 15 nights.

To play those 15 nights, at rate of doing 1 or 2 per day you gotta do 1 or 2 weeks.

So is it worth investing 30k to maybe return the investment after ~600 hours of just capturing Hydrolists?
No one is stupid enough to buy that, especially if more "realistic" price of 2k plat per riven that is within 2% of damage output requires about 40 nights to start being profitable which for tryhards may even be couple of days if they play 8 hours a day.

So what I think of these prices is that some people just have too much ego and are so deep into being a meta slave that they stroke their sword while thinking of that.

Your average player cannot sustain economy of playing 2 hours per day and paying so much for a riven, while player who plays 8 hours per day can and they inflate prices by stroking their ego..

I've sold some god rivens for meta weapons, those prices of 2k+ don't work, best I realistically did is ~1800 for Scoliac with range and crit chance on slide.

Most expensive I bought is Euphona Riven for 1600, reason I did not argue the price is because it is CC+MS+Elect-status duration and each number is within 1% of being a maximum roll for 3-1 Euphona Prime riven. Easy Radiation with primed Heated Charge, it is pretty much as good as it gets for building that weapon and it is my favorite weapon in this game. You may argue I could have talked it down but those max rolls on stats are actually worth A LOT for any weapon as it is hard enough to nail perfect stats, nailing maximum buff on each stat too is unicorn level and likely happened less than 5 times for each weapon in this game since rivens were introduced. Riven stats having like 40k combinations and stat variations being +-25-ish% or whatever it is, it's nuts.

Those are where I draw the line and I actually fully justify spiking up the price. Not to 30k, but depending on a weapon we can talk up to 4-5k actually being quite realistic.
It is a diminishing return compared to buying same roll with lower values, but it is a unicorn level of rarity.

I know I'd pay a lot for a perfect Supra riven, rolled like 150 rolls on multiple rivens and no luck.
Last edited by No_Quarter; Jun 28, 2019 @ 1:25am
< >
Showing 1-15 of 25 comments
Per page: 1530 50

Date Posted: Jun 27, 2019 @ 3:57pm
Posts: 25