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Armor, just imagine all the corpus units with armor, only then we could see the corpus as something else than simple cannon fodder that dies in 2 shots of any random weapon.
You can see it when you use Nyx on corrupted or when there are invasions. The Grineer always push the Corpus back in the missions.
that armor makes all the difference. Also the Fomorions are just plain nasty
quote=𝕰𝖘𝖉𝖊𝖆𝖙𝖍;1639787494956130288]If you put a heavy gunner lvl 150 and a lvl 150 Corpus Tech in the simulacrum, the Tech always wins by alot. Why? Because the Corpus just deal ALOT more damage. Plus in a "war" the grineer wouldnt have anything to counter the Bursa's. And while the manic's are quite strong, they wouldnt beat a Bursa. [/quote]
I have heard about the Simulacrum, what exactly is it?
A place where you can spawn any mob you scanned X times before (everything from the whole game with only 3-4 exceptions because reasons), at any level, idle or active, with or without inmunity to damage, etc. Used for testing.
You can buy the key for access to Symaris, on any relay.
PD, the max level of what you can spawn is tied to your MR, being lvl 165 the current max for MR27.
1) They are progressive with technology and will utilize new tech, a plasma rifle hits WAY harder than a sniper rifle so realism wise Corpus indeed have superior weapons.
2) They got the industry and money to do what Grineer cant. Corpus can make cities, massive warships, giant mechs, factories around a freakin gas giant.Grineer can make ships too but Corpus can do the same but way more quickly.
3) Their leadership isnt centralized or tied to few persons only
4) They are the faction that Tenno would most likely side with if they could choose. Even if they are evil, they are the lesser evils. Corpus can build stuff and life under them atleast can exist (Fortuna) compared to just getting genocided the moment they meet (Like Mars when Grineer came).
And not all investors are total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, Ergo is actually a good human being, Ay can be reasoned with and there are many investors out there that we havent meet yet who could be more open minded even if most of them are just bad.
Nora might be an investor too because if you hear her idle chatter... she has access to things like what do Corpus scientists make in their labs... like thats classified intel.
5) In game and in lore, Corpus are way more dangerous towards Tenno. Not only they know clearly well who and what Warframes are, who operators are, they also know how to counter our abilities with nulifiers and nulifiers are so powerful with their negation field that they can grab Limbo out of a dimension and pull him back. They got legions of mechs and infantry to support their specialists. Their massive spider bots Orbs... Grineer have embarassing Thumpers in comparison. Yeah Orbs might be expensive but you put one down in a middle of Grineer army and see how they scatter like ants since nobody has a weapon to even dent that thing.
6) They might have even larger number of troops (Especially if we count their legions of mechs) than Grineer, while cloning tanks of Grineer can work nonstop to spawn thousands of soldiers, Corpus can clone troops but due to their higher concept of genetics their clones wont detoriate and wither away. They can also recruit troops from their population. Grineer dont have any civilians to draw from. So corpus can deploy clones, profesional soldiers AND conscripts.
Corpus can win as the turtle, they can systematicly cut of Grineer planets and just wait and kill any ship that aproaches. The clones eventually withers away and you just got a planet without even having to step on it.
Eventually the Kuva Fortress would be found and then its just a matter of time before corpus cruisers and battleships overwhelm its defences and blast it to pieces. They could also just construct a giant orbital cannon and snipe it across the star system.
The Tenno can only stop that for so long before it happens. Corpus level damage output with heavy armour and the Grineer win.
1. True, the Corpus are more technologically advanced. Especially Alad V, but he's the only Corpus big wig who wants to experiment with the bio technology around the Infested. The Amalgams were not entirely of his own creation, since he was in cahoots with the Ropalolyst, and even Nef Anyo was interested in Sentient tech.
Further still, while the Grineer have working amalgamations of Grineer and Orokin tech, considering the simple reality of the Queens' origins, that's not entirely a step up above Sentients since that was the basis of the Tenno as a weapon during the Old War: Orokin were too high tech and easy for Sentients to manipulate.
2. They have industry, sure, but they are not nearly as large the Grineer. They have control of fewer planets, the Grineer are united and not split among different clans like the Corpus. And the Corpus very much rely on Grineer contracts for a large source of income. Granted, the Grineer conversely rely on Corpus technology for ease of creating much of their own technology like their common body modifications needed to support their genetically deteriorating pool of clones.
But with the fact that ingame bosses never really seem to truly die, it's worth not forgetting the Uranus Sea Labs and Tyl Regor's work on fixing that deterioration. Not to mention, it's not like he's the only intelligent Grineer scientist ( Tengus still exists, supposedly ).
And the Grineer can make just as massive war ships and factories as the Corpus, I don't know why you're ignoring that. Hell, the Corpus don't have anything on Balor Fomorians or even their smaller standard counterpars, the regular Fomorians. And you're just pulling the "Corpus can make just as large ships, but faster" out of your ass, unless you have a source for that.
3. As I said before, the Grineer have a benefit in being so (mostly) united under the Queens. The extent of their splinter groups are all based on genetic deviations from the norm, including both the Kavor and Steel Meridian.
The Corpus on the other hand consist of many clans/sub factions. The Perrin Sequence is one of them, Alad V and Nef Anyo are of their own clades, as well as Frohd Bek. They're often at each others throats over disagreements, and have several times in the past backstabbed each other, employing the help of outsiders like the Tenno to do their dirty work.
4. Read above. You can't really make an exception for the Perrin Sequence and call it "Tenno siding with the Corpus". True enough though, the Corpus are slightly more civilized in their rule over innocents, and at least create some systems of society for these people to live in, though of course it all circles around the Corpus, just as the Orokin treated those under their rule.
5. The Grineer leadership also know who the Tenno are, they come from the Orokin Era themselves. The Corpus, besides Alad V through all his experiences with the Tenno, do not know nearly as much about us than the Grineer. In fact, where are you pulling that from? Unless you're just referring to Alad V, to which I'll refer you back to #3, Alad doesn't play nice with the other clades.
You talk about the legions of robotic proxies the Corpus have, but in terms of actual manpower, the Grineer allegedly have the Corpus beaten by a massive margin. The Grineer are in fact the dominant force in the system when we awaken, they use USSR military tactics cranked up to 11.
And you're talking about Orb Mothers vs Thumpers when you're forgetting Balor Fomorians. Profit Taker is assisted by their satellite life line which could easily be taken out with a Fomorian assault, pending any of the orbital defenses teased with Railjack.
6. And here, you're still pulling stuff out of nowhere. Corpus don't really clone themselves en masse, so I don't know why you're mentioning that as an option. Their "legions of mechs" only even the playing field between their numbers, and again, they're not all always cooperating. They are not united and are often backstabbing each other for personal gain and profit.
You have a point about recruiting from the population, though who knows how much of that could possibly work, as we've yet to see anything like that ingame and inlore. But they do not have clones, aside from whatever you want to call Amalgam Spectorages, who again, are a part of Alad's clade and back alley deals, not the Corpus as a whole.
How would the Corpus be able to wholly cut off the Grineer from the planets they already control, which again, are in the Grineer's side for majority. You can't treat the Grineer as some sort of super limited, finite number of clones who you can very easily wait out and let deteriorate to the ground. You can't realistically expect the Grineer to "wither away" so easily like that. They have their controlled planets, they have a very powerful space military force, and they have a greatly outnumbering amount of troops to throw.
The Kuva Fortress is called a fortress for a reason, and it's ridiculous to think that it'd be as simple as finding it and "constructing a space laser to snipe it", or that it'd be "overwhelmed and be blasted to pieces." Again, you're forgetting the superior might of the Grineer space military and the huge armaments protecting the Kuva Fortress.
Lore wise, I'm not sure. You'd think the Corpus but the Corpus are also highly prone to doing incredibly stupid things in the name of profit while the Grineer stay focused on killing so it might be a matter of which faction self-destructs first, which seems to be most likely the Corpus.
When the Tenno are intervening regularly to save your sorry butts from accidentally blowing up your own planets (Fortuna, twice), or accidentally creating a new sentient faction (Ambulas), or deliberately creating new horrible things that always get out of control (Alad V - repeatedly), you are probably too dumb to live. Also since Mutalist Infested are here to stay, we failed at this at least once.
True, the Grineer have their fair share of this, but just as often we're saving people from the Grineer who would have destroyed or threatened things successfully at no real detriment to themselves (most notably: Fomorians). In that regard, the Grineer strike me as just a bit more likely to kill everyone else first before getting themselves killed as opposed to the other way around, making them more dangerous and likely to win a war.
Also a mix of Gameplay and Lore: the Corpus like to set up shop in cold places, which has a negative impact on their shields. So yeah, I think hands down the Corpus would lose due to being more stupid.
Hmm, both of those have good points... Well, interesting!