Bring Alerts Back

[BlueCarrots]

Please

[YoRHa Unit]

I'm fine with them gone as long as DE doesnt make 1 month breaks between the nightwave seasons

[Grey Star, The Rival Defender]

No.

[Donitsi]

Originally posted by YoRHa unit:

I'm fine with them gone as long as DE doesnt make 1 month breaks between the nightwave seasons

Here here! I'm sure they have learned. Third seasons and other seasons after that shouldn't take a whole month or more to start.

[zeromaveric]

we've been getting the usual alerts every weekend. and i've slept through some potato invasions, due to my work/sleep schedule. but i do kinda wish we had alerts during the week like a year ago when i played on console. i remember that being my primary source for nitains

[Hawk]

Here's another thing that no one seems to mention, the Kavat DNA alert, 10 strains in one shot during a weekly alert, now you can only get them by the horrible scanning in the orokin derelict.

[Grey Star, The Rival Defender]

Originally posted by Hawk:

Here's another thing that no one seems to mention, the Kavat DNA alert, 10 strains in one shot during a weekly alert, now you can only get them by the horrible scanning in the orokin derelict.

They buffed the chances of getting genetic codes from Kavats specifically because of the alert removal. That's a great thing.

Plus, that's 10 strains, every two weeks. And you're SOL if you miss it. The Derelict literally never goes anywhere.

So, Nightwave was a great thing for Kavats.

[Sterling]

Either that or DE puts constant sources of wolf creds.

[NPC_CO8ALT]

It was getting to the point where I wasn't even LOOKING at the alerts anymore unless it was giving a reactor or helmet blueprint.

Alerts needed to go. At least with Nightwave we got better rewards for doing easy tasks instead of doing random missions for minimal credits and crap resources.

[Hawk]

Originally posted by Grey Star, The Rival Defender:

They buffed the chances of getting genetic codes from Kavats specifically because of the alert removal. That's a great thing.

Plus, that's 10 strains, every two weeks. And you're SOL if you miss it. The Derelict literally never goes anywhere.

So, Nightwave was a great thing for Kavats.

I'd rather have it given to me in one lump sum then have to fight for it via the Derelict, sorry no thank you, spent hours trying to find them before they "fixed it" it was never fun. Not to mention I don't build them that often so 10 per 2 weeks is just fine by me. Again they took an option away and failed to replace it with anything. DE's whole fake speech about "we want to make the game less grindy" was a massive lie as with all things that they say.

So when you say "Nightwave was great for Kavats" you are 100% incorrect in that statement, Nightwave took away one opportunity but failed to give another so now the only way to get the DNA is to, once again, farm for it. That is not a good trade to me.

[Grey Star, The Rival Defender]

Originally posted by Hawk:

Originally posted by Grey Star, The Rival Defender:

They buffed the chances of getting genetic codes from Kavats specifically because of the alert removal. That's a great thing.

Plus, that's 10 strains, every two weeks. And you're SOL if you miss it. The Derelict literally never goes anywhere.

So, Nightwave was a great thing for Kavats.

I'd rather have it given to me in one lump sum then have to fight for it via the Derelict, sorry no thank you, spent hours trying to find them before they "fixed it" it was never fun. Not to mention I don't build them that often so 10 per 2 weeks is just fine by me. Again they took an option away and failed to replace it with anything. DE's whole fake speech about "we want to make the game less grindy" was a massive lie as with all things that they say.

So when you say "Nightwave was great for Kavats" you are 100% incorrect in that statement, Nightwave took away one opportunity but failed to give another so now the only way to get the DNA is to, once again, farm for it. That is not a good trade to me.

Changes to Kavat Genetic Codes - Abridged

• Update: Specters of the Rail - Introduced
  
• Hotfix: Specters of the Rail 4 - Doubled the chance to get a Kavat Genetic Signature on scanning of Feral Kavats.
  
• Hotfix 24.2.15 - Increased chance of Kavat scans yielding Genetic Codes to 25% (from 15%) and made drop chance/amount Boosters apply to all scans that yield Resources.

Working backwards from this.
Current Kavat Genetic Code Chance - 25%
Before Nightwave Code Chance - 15%
Original Code Chance (half of before Nightwave chance) - 7.5%

Currently speaking, out of four Kavats that spawn in a Derelict mission, there's a good chance that one of them will spawn with a genetic code. Previously, that number would be a one in seven good chance. And originally, it would be a one in fourteen chance.

So before Nightwave, there would be a one in seven chance of a Kavat spawning with a genetic code attached to it in any Derelict mission. I've played enough Derelict missions where I've seen zero Kavats as I'm bullet jumping through, and when I have been kavat hunting I generally don't see many times where there's as many as seven Kavats. What I do see, often, is a group of two Kavats. A 25% chance is a lot better for two Kavats than a 15%.

So yes, Nightwave made it far, far easier to scan Kavats on the Derelict and get a reasonable amount of codes.

Originally posted by Hawk:

I'd rather have it given to me in one lump sum then have to fight for it via the Derelict, sorry no thank you, spent hours trying to find them before they "fixed it" it was never fun.

The Derelict is the main, intended way of getting Kavat codes. In addition just holding a Synthesis scanner out when entering a room and looking for glowy things that resemble big cats is all that it takes to find a Feral Kavat. As for scanning them, any number of crowd control abilities.

Originally posted by Hawk:

Not to mention I don't build them that often so 10 per 2 weeks is just fine by me.

That's nice. I still don't have an Adarza that isn't ugly as sin and waiting for the chance of being online when a psuedo-random generation of a mission that lasts for 2 hours, at most, to give me what I want in a two week rotation, I'd like my codes in an accessible way.
If I got one Kavat code a day from running a few Derelict missions, that'd be 14 genetic codes over the course of a two week period, rather than just 10. That takes out the randomness of when the alert goes up, whether or not I'm able to complete said alert, oh and I can do it multiple times per play session rather than once over a whole two weeks.

Originally posted by Hawk:

Again they took an option away and failed to replace it with anything.

One minute to craft a Derelict key for exterminate (more Kavats) or capture (vault hunting + Kavats). Synthesis Scanner to scan the Kavats with infinite charges. 25% of any given Kavat spawning with a genetic code. Radial blind to stun the Kavats. Literally any weapon to kill the Infested. Get to it.

Originally posted by Hawk:

So when you say "Nightwave was great for Kavats" you are 100% incorrect in that statement, Nightwave took away one opportunity but failed to give another so now the only way to get the DNA is to, once again, farm for it.

What other option was there to begin with for Kavat codes other than farming? Wait for the alerts? 14 week period, if lucky. Buy them with plat? Ha, plat has to be farmed. Buy plat to buy the codes? That's skipping the grind the game is built around and why people buy plat to begin with. Whole game is grind.
Specters of the Rail - July 8th, 2016 - Introduced Kavat Codes
Update 19.1 - November 11th, 2016 - Added Kavat Codes to Alerts
4 months in-between Kavat codes being introduced, and them being added to alerts. So, literally only able to farm for them. With a 7.5% chance of any Kavat spawning with a code. Gee, that's typical DE bullcrap grinds, isn't it?

Now what is that number again now? Oh right, 25%. If I took 7 minutes to complete an exterminate + get a single Kavat code + get a corrupted mod, I'd have a Kavat in an hour and a half. Sure, the alert makes is so one can get a Kavat literally in one mission. But the alert only ever existed to fix the band aid of how low the drop chances were. Now that DE finally fixed the drop chances, the alert's purpose is no longer needed. It was a nice alert, but it's no longer needed. Because the grind's no longer intolerable, the grind is now fair.

[Shielded Raven]

Originally posted by Donitsi:

Here here! I'm sure they have learned. Third seasons and other seasons after that shouldn't take a whole month or more to start.

DE already came out and said they are waiting for the next nightwave to get verification for consoles, then they will drop it all at once. Why? No clue, aside from it feels like they only drop something on PC first when beta testers are needed.

[Yaltiaj]

I'd like to see alerts return as well. I hated Nightwave as it was very grindy and a timed event that required you login every day to jump through hoops to make minor progress. I don't mind earning the gear but making it that grindy and restricting progression made it annoying. I usually take long breaks from the game then return to it for a few months. Having Nightwave drop when I didn't even want to play in the first place was major pain in the ass.

If they are going to cycle the end rewards to something unique again I hope we aren't held back as much as I'd just like to get it done and not have to worry about it timing out.

[Wulfward]

Alerts are gone, wtf

[Zefar]

Originally posted by Wulfward:

Alerts are gone, wtf

They where replaced with a another system that had both pros and cons. It was running for about 2 months I believe or so and then the took it down to make some changes which is where we are at now.

It'll most likely come back in a new way.

[Kobrakai]

Imagine a new player starting just after nightwave finished. 1 month is a long time to go without access to nitain.