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SirSlapAlot 2019 年 8 月 26 日 上午 5:04
riven.market
Are the prices correct?
They all look horribly overpriced and i've been in riven trading for quite some time
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Syad 2019 年 8 月 26 日 下午 8:33 
I browsed ( and bought) some weapons there and the prices are okay. Consider that it's not worth the energy to list cheap rivens there, and people who "sell" for 10k plat on trade chat do the same here. Creating a biased picture, which you can just ignore and go for the cheap ones.
Pakaku 2019 年 8 月 26 日 下午 8:42 
When you look at riven.market, you're looking at listings that haven't sold yet. You're not looking at what a riven is worth, because how can you get meaningful values when they haven't sold?
最後修改者:Pakaku; 2019 年 8 月 26 日 下午 8:42
^3Tinkles 2019 年 8 月 26 日 下午 8:46 
引用自 Pakaku
When you look at riven.market, you're looking at listings that haven't sold yet. You're not looking at what a riven is worth, because how can you get meaningful values when they haven't sold?
Dates, how long has the riven been up there? You check semlar/riven.market/warframe.market/trade chat, because if a rubico riven is trying to be sold on RM for 3500 with unremarkable stats for a month, then check tradechat/WM/Semlar and see many different ones being listed at 1500-2000 then you know it's worth around 1500-2000 and that 3k is too much.

It's basic economics, then we also have price fixers and scalpers to deal with as well, which again, is why you have to pay attention and know what rivens are worth when you get into that "game". Because it's a different economic beast of it's own, because there isn't a guideline, the community creates their prices, and in turn, determines if those prices are acceptable or not by buying them or ignoring them.
KIREEK 2019 年 8 月 27 日 上午 12:33 
引用自 Potato!!
引用自 Sceles
Sure people can list them for whatever, doesn't mean they will ever get sold. It's not scamming, it's simply betting on a chance that someone is looking for those specific rolls for that specific weapon and doesn't have any better use for his platinum.
Nobody said that's scamming. Are you saying unrealistic price listings is proof that people don't try to scam on riven.market?

Scams such as selling a riven under a pretext like "this riven is unobtainable, it only dropped from an old event" isn't allowed and can lead the serious consequences ingame if reported, this applies to any item
Manipulating the price and auctions isn't a violation of the waframe guidelines, because in the end both the seller and the buyer have to agree on the trade.
High prices that few are capable or want to pay isn't a scam, if it was you would have valid grounds for a massive report wave, leading to a ban wave.
If you can't have a solid argument for a report, then the high prices aren't a violation of warframe guidelines, so it's not scamming.

I didn't make the rules nor the free market.
Grizzledorf 2019 年 8 月 27 日 上午 1:57 
引用自 Sterling
Well, a solid portion of traders in this game are greedy pieces of trash and care only about squeezing as much plat from a single item as possible, so it's to be expected. I remember this one time I was searching for Nyx's neuroptics in Warframe Market and the smallest price was 65 platinum. Yeah, 65 platinum for a fourth of a forgotten, unused and mediocre warframe.

nyx is just mediocre?
最後修改者:Grizzledorf; 2019 年 8 月 27 日 上午 1:58
SirSlapAlot 2019 年 8 月 27 日 上午 2:28 
How about when a riven seller say that 'This riven was acquired before the riven disposition changes so it retains its old high disposition stats"
This has to be considered scamming right?
KIREEK 2019 年 8 月 27 日 上午 2:51 
引用自 SirSlapAlot
How about when a riven seller say that 'This riven was acquired before the riven disposition changes so it retains its old high disposition stats"
This has to be considered scamming right?
Yes, that is scamming and the buyer can request a trade reversal, they can check chat logs and confirm that the seller sold the item under a false pretext. Consequences for the seller are likely applied, like trading priviledges removed.
No_Quarter (已封鎖) 2019 年 8 月 27 日 上午 3:14 
引用自 Grizzledorf
引用自 Sterling
Well, a solid portion of traders in this game are greedy pieces of trash and care only about squeezing as much plat from a single item as possible, so it's to be expected. I remember this one time I was searching for Nyx's neuroptics in Warframe Market and the smallest price was 65 platinum. Yeah, 65 platinum for a fourth of a forgotten, unused and mediocre warframe.

nyx is just mediocre?
Nah, she is just useless. She is by far the least used warframe which means not many players see any use for her, which means she is useless to majority of Warframe players.

I like her new skin, that is all I can say that's good about her. At the same time I am sad that skin is not on some other fun warframe but Rebecca has her fingers in it so Nyx, even tho THE LEST used warframe in the game has the most skins, if you only make half decent tennogen for Nyx it will be introduced.... Totally not because Rebecca is the only person who likes Nyx, well, apart from those 10 passionate players.
No_Quarter (已封鎖) 2019 年 8 月 27 日 上午 3:19 
引用自 Sterling
Well, a solid portion of traders in this game are greedy pieces of trash and care only about squeezing as much plat from a single item as possible, so it's to be expected. I remember this one time I was searching for Nyx's neuroptics in Warframe Market and the smallest price was 65 platinum. Yeah, 65 platinum for a fourth of a forgotten, unused and mediocre warframe.
There is an actual study that people tend to overprice their own stuff and underprice stuff they want to buy, actual ratio from that study is x2.48 - that is on average the difference for same items people were asked how much would they pay and same profile of people were given that item and then they were asked how much would they sell it for.

Which in laymen's terms means - on average people were offering 10$ for an item but people who had it were confident that 24.8$ is a fair price for which they'll part with the item.
Ostoia 2019 年 8 月 27 日 上午 3:57 
You should really learn about basics of market economy. And the idea of "The things I want to buy are overpriced and the things I want sell are underpriced" is hilarious. Guess what? Everyone wants to get the best deal they can. Market is not charity and people can set whatever prices they want. It is up to other people to decide if the price is reasonable. If its not, people will not buy simple as that and if no one is buying sellers will be forced to lower the prices.
SirSlapAlot 2019 年 8 月 27 日 上午 6:06 
引用自 Ostoia
You should really learn about basics of market economy. And the idea of "The things I want to buy are overpriced and the things I want sell are underpriced" is hilarious. Guess what? Everyone wants to get the best deal they can. Market is not charity and people can set whatever prices they want. It is up to other people to decide if the price is reasonable. If its not, people will not buy simple as that and if no one is buying sellers will be forced to lower the prices.
First of all, I never mentioned anything about "The things I want to buy are overpriced and the things I want sell are underpriced". I understand basic economics and i've been in riven trading for some time (as i have mentioned in my post). I just want to know if using the prices in riven.market to average out a price for a riven works or not
KIREEK 2019 年 8 月 27 日 上午 7:39 
引用自 SirSlapAlot
引用自 Ostoia
You should really learn about basics of market economy. And the idea of "The things I want to buy are overpriced and the things I want sell are underpriced" is hilarious. Guess what? Everyone wants to get the best deal they can. Market is not charity and people can set whatever prices they want. It is up to other people to decide if the price is reasonable. If its not, people will not buy simple as that and if no one is buying sellers will be forced to lower the prices.
First of all, I never mentioned anything about "The things I want to buy are overpriced and the things I want sell are underpriced". I understand basic economics and i've been in riven trading for some time (as i have mentioned in my post). I just want to know if using the prices in riven.market to average out a price for a riven works or not

No, budgets and prices are personal decisions
Even if you come out with a budget for something, you still need to ask the seller for how much he is selling, they often respond because they have tought about it.

It works, kinda, but don't use averages to decide how much things should go for, dont impose your decision on others
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