riven.market

[SirSlapAlot]

Are the prices correct?
They all look horribly overpriced and i've been in riven trading for quite some time

[Ghost | Severage]

They are overpriced, just like in the warframe.market auction house

[SirSlapAlot]

Originally posted by Ghost | Severage:

They are overpriced, just like in the warframe.market auction house

warframe.market ones seem more sensible tho

[Sterling]

Well, a solid portion of traders in this game are greedy pieces of trash and care only about squeezing as much plat from a single item as possible, so it's to be expected. I remember this one time I was searching for Nyx's neuroptics in Warframe Market and the smallest price was 65 platinum. Yeah, 65 platinum for a fourth of a forgotten, unused and mediocre warframe.

[Sceles]

There are no correct prices when it comes to rivens.

[SirSlapAlot]

Originally posted by Potato!!:

It's ♥♥♥♥, just like every other auction / market style website for game pseudo-economies.
scammers/hackers/RWTers will lowball everything because they don't give a ♥♥♥♥ if they don't get a fair deal as long as they offload their items for something reasonable. Merchers will try to manipulate prices, greedy morons will try to undercut everything to their advantage.

It's all supply and demand to the extreme - anything unique, i.e a good riven, people will try to charge massively for, everything else, no matter how seemingly rare, will become worthless junk in no time. But idiots will still ignore market trends and insist their dumb prices are fair.
You can have a a riven for a meh weapon, but good stats and people will want to buy it for nothing because it isn't meta. You can try to buy a meta weapon riven with ♥♥♥♥ stats and they will tell you it's worth 2k plat just because it has potential to be good.

well i've seen a despair +elec +cc +ms -ammo max for 3.8k which gave me a good laugh

[Sceles]

Originally posted by SirSlapAlot:

Originally posted by Potato!!:

It's ♥♥♥♥, just like every other auction / market style website for game pseudo-economies.
scammers/hackers/RWTers will lowball everything because they don't give a ♥♥♥♥ if they don't get a fair deal as long as they offload their items for something reasonable. Merchers will try to manipulate prices, greedy morons will try to undercut everything to their advantage.

It's all supply and demand to the extreme - anything unique, i.e a good riven, people will try to charge massively for, everything else, no matter how seemingly rare, will become worthless junk in no time. But idiots will still ignore market trends and insist their dumb prices are fair.
You can have a a riven for a meh weapon, but good stats and people will want to buy it for nothing because it isn't meta. You can try to buy a meta weapon riven with ♥♥♥♥ stats and they will tell you it's worth 2k plat just because it has potential to be good.

well i've seen a despair +elec +cc +ms -ammo max for 3.8k which gave me a good laugh

Sure people can list them for whatever, doesn't mean they will ever get sold. It's not scamming, it's simply betting on a chance that someone is looking for those specific rolls for that specific weapon and doesn't have any better use for his platinum.

[^3Tinkles]

That price of something isn't worth what you think it's worth, be it 10p or 10,000p. It's worth whatever the buyer is willing to pay.

[BigCal]

Originally posted by Sceles:

There are no correct prices when it comes to rivens.

[Kou]

Well, I am always checking prices using bots @ Discord. It's going to be the most accurate.

[SweetStarfieldFan]

It's not overpriced just some people are only in for the plat. They kinda pitch the market price.
Funny thing, those greedy know it but act like babies when you try to negotiate with them.
Seen people asked for half prize and they said friendly yes or no but you recognize one greedy bastard if you only ask for a 10p discount.

Also there is no item in the game that you cant get for half the price if you find the right player.
It's a matter of - can you be patient - or do you need it right now!
So many player sit on sooo many ♥♥♥♥ cause they were too greedy at first or didnt engage in the market for ever!

[KIREEK]

The sellers are free to establish any price, there is no overpricing going on
You are free to establish any budget you so desire, you are not a cheapskate if you select a lower budget.

[No_Quarter]

for each riven there is somewhat of a "expected price range" depending on supply, demand and stats.

those stupid high prices for some rivens are outright bs in 99.9999% cases, I would argue that few of them are fine because when you get perfect set of stats for the weapon and you also roll very close to maximum % for each stat then we are looking at a roll that happens once every couple tens of millions. That is well beyond what's considered a "legendary" drop, it's a unicorn, it is very likely that for each weapon in this game there are less than 10 such rivens across all platforms.

so there is some room to call some insane prices actually justified but you have to have a perfect roll to fit a weapon to maximize a build to slap that price and get away with it.

Now, on riven.market there are people who slap prices and hope someone will bite. Same as on trade chat, WTS Rubioco CC +DMG -mag size 6k plat, he hopes idiot will bite.
There is stigma about rivens that you can make A LOT of platinum from them but sad reality is that you cannot make any ♥♥♥♥ from them, takes too much time to sell them, too much hassle, too much lowballing and people hoping that you somehow have no brain. I've met a lot of scammers on it and what I ended up doing is - ♥♥♥♥ trading rivens. I try to sell some that are super popular and I do not care for them, in most scenarios I'd prefer trading for another riven I actually like. If I can reliably get 1k platinum for it I give it for 700-800, just go away in couple of seconds, I do not want to have anything to do with it.

I collect rivens for my self, trying to make fun builds, if I can sell some cool ones I do, if not I have no issues using 2 Corinth rivens for transmutation because idiots did not want to take them for a price that's 20% lower than what they can ever find. And I have no use for them, so it is either more hassle with scum or chance to get something fun? Or I just give them out to viewers in exchange for any trash riven they've got, I get to transmute, people get to have fun.
Way better than giving good rivens to those WTB <insert meta rivens> 50 plat or to a Mr27 who haggles over 10 plat on 400 plat purchase. ♥♥♥♥ off honestly, my capacity is capped and taking it off my hands has an actual value to me.

People need to lower the expectations on riven prices, part of the problem is those bot accounts who spam offers whole day long with good-ish rivens overpriced by 500%, people see that and they think it works. I understand it is a free market, but adding value to something just because it sits in your inventory and not mine is quite a bit o fa stupid act - no one wants to pay sentimental value for the riven. And you are not any better if you value your riven higher than others, it does not make you or the riven better. But it's a price to elitism.

There are 2 ways to make platinum from rivens:
1) buy good tenno weapon rivens and wait for prime
2) have 30k+ platinum liquid at all times and spend entire day on riven trading sites and trade chat to fish offers you can benefit from

Both of them take way too much time to make it profitable. If you buy rivens to roll them you will lose platinum 10/10, any other paltinum farm in game is better than rivens.
Getting lucky once in a blue moon to get a riven that is actually worth over 1k is all the profit you can hope for, but considering how much you need for slots, how much time it takes to farm kuva, to roll good rivens by getting about 7 per month - not worth getting into it for sole purpose of making platinum and people still dream that and part of the reason for high prices is that, you cannot make profit, sure it is a huge burst of profit to get 1-2k of platinum but if you count what you did to get there - the worst platinum farm in game even if you scam people for the platinum, people seem to miss that if they spammed the same message 500 times to sell one riven - how much platinum could you make for that amount of time? Way more. And no one wants to pay for you wasting time and there is that loophole.

If you are in the market for a riven I suggest not paying attention to higher offers than 1-1.5k except when buying pure ass meta with perfect stats. But also note that with some patience someone will likely show up with a decent price sooner or later and that depending on a weapon you are likely to get something good for up to couple hundreds of platinum.

[Security Cam #7]

Originally posted by BigCal:

Originally posted by Sceles:

There are no correct prices when it comes to rivens.

[^3Tinkles]

Originally posted by Potato!!:

Originally posted by Sceles:

Sure people can list them for whatever, doesn't mean they will ever get sold. It's not scamming, it's simply betting on a chance that someone is looking for those specific rolls for that specific weapon and doesn't have any better use for his platinum.

Nobody said that's scamming. Are you saying unrealistic price listings is proof that people don't try to scam on riven.market?

I think his point is completely valid, and he never said anything that you assumed he did.

Whatever someone wants to sell a riven for, if someone is desperate enough - they'll buy it. Otherwise, they won't. Simple as that, you the individual consumer, determine if that item is too much or too little.

[^3Tinkles]

Originally posted by Potato!!:

Originally posted by ^3Tinkles:

I think his point is completely valid, and he never said anything that you assumed he did.

Whatever someone wants to sell a riven for, if someone is desperate enough - they'll buy it. Otherwise, they won't. Simple as that, you the individual consumer, determine if that item is too much or too little.

Never said anything I think he said? So what was the reason he bought up scamming if not because I mentioned it? His comment isn't relevant to that which he's replying without the context of my initial comment.

I was talking about what you had in quotes, in that comment he wasn't talking about scamming.

Does scamming happen? Yes.
Is something a scam because you think the price is too high or low? What might be for you, might not be for another. I wouldn't buy a riven for 2,000+ plat, but others will, and that's fine. What isn't fine is when a riven worth +++ is sold for far less, especially when the seller doesn't know the price and has nothing to compare it to.

Getting into the riven 'game' means you need quite a bit of experience on what weapons are 'in' and which aren't, and those that are/aren't which are the 'worthwhile' ones. It's a big pin-ball game of bouncing between semlar, riven.market, warframe.market and trade chat (not to mention discords) of finding the 'correct ballpark price'.

Which is why I typically sell veiled rivens and just buy ones I'm looking for and roll them myself.