Scoliac help

[Jon.Topps]

So I see many people consider Scolaic THE melee weapon, and I see it's some of the most expensive rivens out there. I just got a riven, and I'm starting a Scoliac build, and I'm really confused. Everywhere online I see the most expensive rivens for it are crit focused, and online people say a crit build is the best.... it's base crit is 5%.... Why are people so focused on crit builds for such a horrible crit weapon?

Is it because I'm misunderstanding Maiming Strike? I had thought that your crit chance goes UP 90% on a slide attack, but does it just increase the base TO 90%? That seems super counter intuitive, based on how mods typically work, but it's the only thing that makes sense to me as to why people would be crit building Scoliacs.

Would love some information and help on this topic, thanks!

[Taddy Mason]

I though stat increases just go off the base. Like how you can have 3 different mods boosting status chance by 60% each, but the weapon only goes up to 80% status chance with all of them on

[Watermelons]

Maiming Strike and +crit chance to slide attack on rivens is additive. So yeah, Maiming Strike throws a flat +90% to your crit chance, which alone would make a Scoliac go up to 95% on slide attacks. Any addition +crit to slide attack from rivens would also be additive, and since Scoliac rivens have a very high disposition, you can get stats that even surpass a Maiming Strike.
On top of that, people aim for attack speed and range just so they can make stupidly easy spin to win builds.

[Jon.Topps]

Oh weird! So even though the mod SAYS "+90%", really it's working completely differently from other mods that say the same thing "+x% crit chance". So for example, True Steel and Maiming Strike mechanisms work totally differently then? Even though they say the same thing on the mod? Just want to make sure I understand, don't want to waste tons of kuva and formas and build a junk weapon, lol

Like True Steel takes 5% to 8%, but Maiming Strike take 5% to 95%?

[Watermelons]

Originally posted by Jon.Topps:

Oh weird! So even though the mod SAYS "+90%", really it's working completely differently from other mods that say the same thing "+x% crit chance". So for example, True Steel and Maiming Strike mechanisms work totally differently then? Even though they say the same thing on the mod? Just want to make sure I understand, don't want to waste tons of kuva and formas and build a junk weapon, lol

Like True Steel takes 5% to 8%, but Maiming Strike take 5% to 95%?

Yeppers. It's a completely stupid thing that DE decided to make without absolutely any fore throught into why except driving demand over a mod they planned on keeping very scarce.

[Jon.Topps]

Originally posted by Something Something Watermelons:

Originally posted by Jon.Topps:

Oh weird! So even though the mod SAYS "+90%", really it's working completely differently from other mods that say the same thing "+x% crit chance". So for example, True Steel and Maiming Strike mechanisms work totally differently then? Even though they say the same thing on the mod? Just want to make sure I understand, don't want to waste tons of kuva and formas and build a junk weapon, lol

Like True Steel takes 5% to 8%, but Maiming Strike take 5% to 95%?

Yeppers. It's a completely stupid thing that DE decided to make without absolutely any fore throught into why except driving demand over a mod they planned on keeping very scarce.

Okay just trying to figure out how to do this, are there other things that add this weird modifier, or just Maiming Strike and rivens with the slide crit chance?
Then, weird question, do things like True Steel working off the base crit chance? Or do they affect the new modified crit chance? So like, is the 60% going off the 5% base, or the 95% that Maiming does? Like, is True Steel and things like it even worth putting on something like Scoliac?

[Jon.Topps]

So I just got this on my FIRST roll.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1854095473

5 + 90 + 113.9 = 208.9%
So this would total 208.9% crit chance on slide attacks? Which is probably just about the highest you can get?