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very very very very
very bad comparison.
It's so bad it's actually "Futurama-quote" funny.
Try again.
A normal person would have understood that your comparison is hampered and just admitted it. (We get you might have just written it in a hurry)
I mean we know what you were trying to say but your effort was terrible.
Or maybe you are still too young to distinguish that at all. My guess would be the last one.
Maybe it’s because I am prone to bad analogies myself that I spot them so easy, but it really could use some polish. Here let me change it a bit.
You go to a movie marathon, the Lord of the Rings trilogy plus the Hobbit, entry is free, there are plenty of breaks. This is actually the film makers own cinema, so all proceeds go directly to the people who made the films. Whether or not you pay or not is totally up to you. After the first movie and you ascertain that this is a great movie and will watch the rest, but since it takes awhile you pay for a better seat, a giant coke and popcorn to enjoy it to the fullest and the thought you rewarded a good product and hopefully many more in the future. After another hour into the second movie you get kicked out.
Now it’s your own fault for paying anything, after all you could have watched for free. You could have just not watched at all and used your time differently.
The reason your analogy doesn’t really work is, normally you pay up front for a mostly predetermined experience. The movie still can be crap though. But you get your seat and can watch for the next 90min or so. If any technical difficulties arise (missing sound, seat breaks down) you do have the right for recompense. You don’t get that with a game, even with monthly subscription, I am not a lawyer so don’t ask me why that is.
As for another sour point, as I had said, I bought 50 bucks or so, worth of plat a week prior because I wanted to get some skins but couldn’t make up my mind which one to go for and never bought anything before. So much I got my money worth out of it. Currently still have 2029 plat on it. (can still log into my account, not that it helps me in any way, that’s why I know I have that account for 5 years too.)
Dammit I said I wasn’t going to answer but here I am. Well at least it was a better post this time.
I can totally see where you are coming from, being on the side of believing the accused is trying to wiggle out of a self caused problem.
Maybe you have seen it time and time again, only for the truth emerge later. And you are just done believing anyone on that subject pleading not guilty.
I and it seems others in this thread too, still rather believe in the “innocent until proven guilty” and assume the system being faulty, not used correctly or plain “it’s not how it looks”.
Now I don’t say any of that side (or any in between) is the objectively correct stance, no matter what.
It’s an ideological decision everyone need to make for themselves.
But it is also another thing to just figuratively barge into a room and start accusing someones guilt and assume further wrongdoings. I for one didn’t get the impression there was ever any doubt in your mind.
Though I am willing do chalk that up to hasty typing and your general way of writing.
As for how things are handled everywhere. Even if it is the case, I don’t see why I or anyone should just take it. Just because everyone does it so, doesn’t make it right or better. As to refer my own (properly bad) analogy, at one point slavery was the status quo and it seem to me that got changed too.
As for how cheaters act, to echo my first reply to you, how is it different to truly innocent ones? I am pretty sure I couldn’t tell the difference (if the cheater isn’t a total idiot that is, than again even an innocent player might act bizarre)
LibreOffice (the better OpenOffice) is your friend. :D
While true, I would argue that if I were to disagree with every EULA or TOS that has this paragraphs, I would most likely didn’t need any internet, let alone games, messenger service or frankly anything online and or digital.
Basically all of them have that clause in one form or another. Always saying they never going to use it in the strictest sense, but it is just there to be able to act without having to blow up the text with every single scenario.
1. As a cautionary tale not to get to invested. As others have said, you own nothing and are dependent on the companies goodwill, especially if something goes wrong. That people understand they are not simply the weaker side in this relationship, but the one without any power.
2. Of course I don’t accept it, because I don’t believe any wrongdoing has happened on my part. Even if the macro is the cause, I would still argue that it was fine for years and suddenly now it is not okay anymore. After all if this has happened 2,3 or 4 years earlier I wouldn’t have invested so much time and money, now would I? I might even have started from scratch because not too much was lost.
And of course I ask for a second opinion if I get the feeling the first one is bad, that’s why other and senior staff members exist. A single person can’t know and handle everything.
3. You call it special treatment. I call it normal procedure. I want this not only for myself but everyone. Is there any logical reason a customer should have the right to a two way talk with support? Getting an answer that doesn’t seem like it was just copy pasted but written with indent and understanding of the matter? And ending with the feeling it was truly resolved no matter if you got the help you sought or found out it was unmistakably your fault?
I don’t think so. The only reasons against it are financial and logistical nature for the company, which as a customer have no need to care about, simply because I am the customer and not an employee, manager or share holder.
This is by the way, one of the reasons you got called a fanboy from my point of view.
Arguing for the company even though there is no benefit in it for you (and everyone else) as a customer.
You can still call it right that people get banned for violating whatever agreement and still demand that all information is revealed and a true dialogue had happened. Those are not mutually exclusive opinions.
When I was banned from support I wasn’t expecting anything positive will come out of it anymore.
I learned a while back that there is a log function in the launcher. Might have helped, if anyone had asked for it. But the day the ultimate ban came I uninstalled the game as I didn’t see me coming back again.
Proigram is X-Mouse Button Control v2.18.8
{HOLDMS:50}{CTRL}{HOLDMS:50}{SPACE}
So holding crouch and jump for a moment.
And it seems I lied. There was another one I so rarely used I completely forgot about it.
{HOLDMS:50}5{WAITMS:120}{HOLDMS:50}{CTRL}{HOLDMS:50}{SPACE}{WAITMS:210}5
For zenurik energy dash: change to operator, do a dash, get back into warframe.
But the point still stands, it has been in use (well barely) unchanged for almost five years without any problem. And if I were bored enough I could look up the stream where either Reb or Meg was using it too and also other warframe partners. (they even used a way faster version for that arcane that pulls enemies in if you exit or enter the frame) So I don’t think for a minute that could have been a problem.
As for actual screenshots, no idea how to integrate them. Not that it would give any weight to it, as I could have just removed anything bad beforehand. (just to anticipate possible replies)
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Now that think about it, I would have partly understood if I got banned because, like I farmed that summer watergun event by just standing on the buoy for about 6 hours “straight” (long live netflix!)
Though I wasn’t a ♥♥♥♥ and was doing it solo. But I also found some people doing it in group and collectively just stand there and chatted for over an hour together. Needed to get my 30 or 40 or so beach balls for my cat.
If that’s would have been the cause, I might have kinda understood that (they wheren't very happy that so many people didn't like to shoot that annoying fast little bastard for hours on end with boring water pumpguns, go figure), but than, hundreds if not thousands of players would have been banned. Or maybe I was just unlucky.
See you in a few hours again.
It is like judging even when not knowing the context.
Using a macro in R6 Siege for an example, where you could swap your shield indefinitely and shoot at the same time, it is a game changer because you play it in a competitive mode.
But banning people because they use macros out of convenience so they dont have to cripple their hands is just the other side of the cookie.
I know it's hard to find the right way between banning cheaters and those that are on a grey area.
But Warframe is not a competitive game (let's not address their flawed pvp mode).
Yeah and as I said that first analogy just gave me goosebumps. But we get it, he plays just for fun and doesnt spent any money on the game. It is clear then that he is "the explorer" type gamer. Not the one that brings in the money for the game. At this point I could just start being an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and say then, if you don't bring any money, your opinion is also worth nothing.
But even if it sounds harsh there is kinda a truth in that. If you don't invest any money in a game, you can't like it that much or care about it as others do. So it must be really hard to understand a different pov like OPs or mine for them.
For instance if that bad-analogy guy gets banned for whatever reason the only thing he loses is time. And regarding his response and so I assume he is a young player, so he has a lot of time and doesnt care losing it.
If you are older and spent money on a game it completely changes though.
p.s: running a macro so you can be afk and farm -> ban deserved
running a macro that gives you an advantage in an 1:1 or pvp scenario -> ban deserved
running a macro that helps you in some grindy automation to not click thousand of buttons while in front of the pc -> I wouldn't care
a) when they don't care or don't have the time to investigate (hence it's just a lie but you can't proof it and they know it). Who would really go so far and hire a 500$ lawyer over a 300$ account.
b) they don't even have the ability to investigate cause they are just a 3rd party company with no real connection to the office that codes the anti-cheat program. hence its also a lie ;)
The only time I can remember (and I might not remember a lot ;)) was when I guess it was Blizzard and or Pearl Abyss banned a lot of people in a banwave with a false/positive and then unbanned them all three days later.