Boosters

[Taddy Mason]

They count down when you’re not even playing? Why? Not even Bethesda does this with ESO-their xp boosters only count down while you’re logged in. What’s stopping DE from doing the same? Is it greed?





(I just posted something similar in someone else’s thread but wanted to start my own so as not to derail theirs.)

[Security Cam #7]

I would be happy if this only happened to boosters dropped from login rewards. To bought ones? Nope. As someone already said a 30 day booster is 720 hours. That's the time I spent in this game over the course of three years.

[Syad]

I know no game where you buy a subscription and it stops counting while offline. That's just stupid, so i'm just going to assume you are wrong about Bethesda too, or just omitting some crucial detail. Needless to say the topic makes no sense.

[FB_Destroyer_Rebecca]

Before opening a thread on steam consider most people that are on such forums like to disagree no matter the topic.
You will have to dig deep until you find something constructive here.

The thing is everyone is just so accustomed boosters running out already it's not even bothering anyone anymore. Also that they start counting right after you buy them and you cant even store them in your inventory for a later time is a bit off.
But hey everything to the max capitalism. They know what they are doing.
Btw just ignore all the "but its a free to play game" shills.

[Taddy Mason]

引用自 Smelly Fish：

I would be happy if this only happened to boosters dropped from login rewards. To bought ones? Nope. As someone already said a 30 day booster is 720 hours. That's the time I spent in this game over the course of three years.

This comment makes no sense. DE sells 30 days boosters-meaning they don’t care if we ALWAYS have a booster going. So why not just change it so the boosters only count down while logged in?

[Taddy Mason]

引用自 Syad：

I know no game where you buy a subscription and it stops counting while offline. That's just stupid, so i'm just going to assume you are wrong about Bethesda too, or just omitting some crucial detail. Needless to say the topic makes no sense.

So you’re gonna take the time to post this comment, tell me you think I’m wrong, but not take 2 seconds to google it and check? Cool, bro. I see how you think.

[Taddy Mason]

引用自 Hope：

引用自 Taddy Mason：

Not talking about ESO plus. I’m talking about the Crown XP boost scrolls you can buy, craft, or get as login rewards. They say right in the item description that they do NOT expire while you’re not playing.

I bring it up because it’s a resource booster that works EXACTLY like the affinity booster in Warframe does (affinity=XP in Warframe)-how can I not compare them? That doesn’t make sense

Yes, and I said you can't see them as the same. Remember ESO it's a b2p with sub (as an extra) Warframe it's a f2p with microtransaction and this change everything in mmo games

No-that’s not an argument that makes sense at all.

[Taddy Mason]

引用自 RadDad：

引用自 Taddy Mason：

They count down when you’re not even playing? Why? Not even Bethesda does this with ESO-their xp boosters only count down while you’re logged in. What’s stopping DE from doing the same? Is it greed?





(I just posted something similar in someone else’s thread but wanted to start my own so as not to derail theirs.)

I agree with you. It's logical.

I've noticed that posting anything that makes sense and goes against the norm is risky on the steam forums. You get these certain personality types that reply as if they are taking the game to bed with them. I heard someone on Youtube refer to them as "White Knights".

It's why I rarely post anymore.

People tend to only like change that THEY thought of.

[Syad]

引用自 Taddy Mason：

引用自 Syad：

I know no game where you buy a subscription and it stops counting while offline. That's just stupid, so i'm just going to assume you are wrong about Bethesda too, or just omitting some crucial detail. Needless to say the topic makes no sense.

So you’re gonna take the time to post this comment, tell me you think I’m wrong, but not take 2 seconds to google it and check? Cool, bro. I see how you think.

I(and noone) don't have the time to do the work to disprove wild random statements posted on the Internet.

[Taddy Mason]

引用自 Roman Braun：

Before opening a thread on steam consider most people that are on such forums like to disagree no matter the topic.
You will have to dig deep until you find something constructive here.

The thing is everyone is just so accustomed boosters running out already it's not even bothering anyone anymore. Also that they start counting right after you buy them and you cant even store them in your inventory for a later time is a bit off.
But hey everything to the max capitalism. They know what they are doing.
Btw just ignore all the "but its a free to play game" shills.

Haha I appreciate the advice, but I’ve been posting and commenting on Steam’s forums for years now. I know that many people just come here to take dumps on other people’s ideas or to just be argumentative.


I don’t think half the people in this thread are here for that, though. There’s an easy dozen people or so on Warframe’s forum in particular that genuinely care about the game and even when I disagree with them, I respect the hell out of the post because it’s at least sincere.

And I think that it being a free to play game would make more people WANT a change like this as it’d be a cheap way to get extra everything-which is never a bad thing in this resource-fest of a game.

As for them not being able to be saved for later-I’ve been wondering why that’s the case as well. Thank you for bringing that up.

[Taddy Mason]

引用自 Syad：

引用自 Taddy Mason：

So you’re gonna take the time to post this comment, tell me you think I’m wrong, but not take 2 seconds to google it and check? Cool, bro. I see how you think.

I(and noone) don't have the time to do the work to disprove wild random statements posted on the Internet.

Then would you kindly stop arguing with me since you’re admitting you not only don’t know whether I’m right or wrong-but you’re not willing to take the time to check? Thanks. I don’t appreciate you wasting our time and derailing the thread with your skepticism and argumentativeness.

I know for a fact they don’t count down in ESO cause I own it, I play it, and the damned item’s description says it.

[No_Quarter]

引用自 Taddy Mason：

引用自 Hope：

Yes, and I said you can't see them as the same. Remember ESO it's a b2p with sub (as an extra) Warframe it's a f2p with microtransaction and this change everything in mmo games

No-that’s not an argument that makes sense at all.

no counter argument can make sense to you cause you are not here to argue but to whine.

DE has F2P game out, as such they need to maintain engagement and one of ways games do that is by having your premium/booster time related to your real world time to fit more of a description of a hobby than a one time venture.

Lucky for us boosters are dirt cheap, just by playing sortie and selling month worth of Ayatans you should get at least one 30-day booster. It is a 30 day booster, it is not estimated for anyone to make use of full 720 hours of it but it is calculated by average playtime. And average playtime lets you buy at least 2 30-day boosters per month without paying any real life money.

You can get all 3 if you are half smart, do your Tridolons, sell maxed mods instead of ayatans cause you get crapton of endo from sorties,....

So you can whine all you want and claim things do not make sense to you just cause you do not agree with them - all same to this forum and DE. As most games do it, at least those games that make money and support couple hundreds of people and their families, DE will maintain the way they monetize the game because it has lead them where they are.
If they'd have to convert boosters to gametime you would not get 720 hour booster for 200 platinum. Then you would come back and whine more about greed and how you do not understand math, engagement, and many other things that are contained in the book called Theory of Fun, something Warframe's creative Director Steve Sinclair has mentioned quite a few times that it's a good read.

If they'd convert it 200 plat would be more like 60 play hours. Maybe a bit more but not 100. So this way you can make use of more if you plan it out.

[Syad]

引用自 Taddy Mason：

引用自 Hope：

Yes, and I said you can't see them as the same. Remember ESO it's a b2p with sub (as an extra) Warframe it's a f2p with microtransaction and this change everything in mmo games

No-that’s not an argument that makes sense at all.

Looks like you have already been proven wrong.

[Taddy Mason]

引用自 Syad：

引用自 Taddy Mason：

So you’re gonna take the time to post this comment, tell me you think I’m wrong, but not take 2 seconds to google it and check? Cool, bro. I see how you think.

I(and noone) don't have the time to do the work to disprove wild random statements posted on the Internet.

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Crown_Experience_Scroll

Here you go, bud. Took me 10 seconds-less time than it took to write your 2 posts. Told you they don’t count down while offline.

[Taddy Mason]

引用自 No_Quarter：

引用自 Taddy Mason：

No-that’s not an argument that makes sense at all.

no counter argument can make sense to you cause you are not here to argue but to whine.

DE has F2P game out, as such they need to maintain engagement and one of ways games do that is by having your premium/booster time related to your real world time to fit more of a description of a hobby than a one time venture.

Lucky for us boosters are dirt cheap, just by playing sortie and selling month worth of Ayatans you should get at least one 30-day booster. It is a 30 day booster, it is not estimated for anyone to make use of full 720 hours of it but it is calculated by average playtime. And average playtime lets you buy at least 2 30-day boosters per month without paying any real life money.

You can get all 3 if you are half smart, do your Tridolons, sell maxed mods instead of ayatans cause you get crapton of endo from sorties,....

So you can whine all you want and claim things do not make sense to you just cause you do not agree with them - all same to this forum and DE. As most games do it, at least those games that make money and support couple hundreds of people and their families, DE will maintain the way they monetize the game because it has lead them where they are.
If they'd have to convert boosters to gametime you would not get 720 hour booster for 200 platinum. Then you would come back and whine more about greed and how you do not understand math, engagement, and many other things that are contained in the book called Theory of Fun, something Warframe's creative Director Steve Sinclair has mentioned quite a few times that it's a good read.

If they'd convert it 200 plat would be more like 60 play hours. Maybe a bit more but not 100. So this way you can make use of more if you plan it out.

Don’t tell me what I’m here for-that’s not up to you to decide, dude. And just saying that you have to buy the base game and all the dlc for ESO while Warframe is completely free if you want it to be isn’t an argument against the change I’m proposing. Not in my opinion anyway because my thought on that is: how does that change anything?

I pointed to ESO cause it’s well known how greedy Bethesda is and look at this one cool thing they did to benefit players-wouldn’t it be great if the more player friendly DE did the same?

And thank you for agreeing with me that DE lets you get every booster active at the same time and keep them active for eternity because that’s how little they care about us using the boosters in the first place.


I like your idea of them tweaking the time for the boosters-not sure why you assumed I’d be “whining” about that if they made that change.


Then again-I think you’re just having a bad day or something and my unwillingness to change my mind for you and your bad arguments is upsetting you for some reason. I’m sorry if I’ve upset you in some way-but me suggesting this idea is not a personal attack on you, ok? No need to take it as such

[Vulbjorn]

Tbh, after playing GW2 I always thought that boosters should count in-game hours too. I'd be
willing if they even got cut down significantly, at least I wouldn't be wasting any while I'm sleeping or doing other things.