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should we be able to breakdown mutagen mass for x10-20 mutagen samples?
Reason being, to ease the pain on HEMA farming for developing clans and give players an incentive to do infested invasions OUTSIDE of nightwave Imo.

What are you're thoughts community? Not suggesting a similar idea for Fieldron/detonite injector because i got 2-8 thousand samples of both of those items and I doubt any research project needs even half the samples (hema needs 15,000) in fieldron samples/detonite samples. Correct me if I am wrong about that
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I seriously doubt they'd make it possible to break masses down into more samples than it would take to make another mass.

Hema only needs 5000 samples if you're doing it alone. You shouldn't be the only one working on 15000 samples in a clan that large. If you are, it's time to find a new clan I guess.

Hema research IS one of the larger farming grinds in Warframe, but it's definitely doable even solo.

If you made your own clan and just built the bigger barracks without realizing it would triple (or more) your research costs, try demolishing your shadow barracks. If that doesn't work, either jsut live with the mistake or start from scratch with a new clan.

It'd be kinda close but I think it might be faster rebuilding than farming the extra 10,000 mutagen samples. Not to mention every future research lab release will be triple the cost with no one to help you pay for it.
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Kou 2019年9月23日 11時35分 
should we be able to breakdown mutagen mass for x10-20 mutagen samples?
No.
No_Quarter (禁止済) 2019年9月23日 11時40分 
Kou の投稿を引用:
should we be able to breakdown mutagen mass for x10-20 mutagen samples?
No.
Pakaku 2019年9月23日 11時41分 
Or DE could just... reduce the Mutagen Sample cost for the Hema. b i g t h i n k m o m e n t
Unknownguy115 の投稿を引用:
What are you're thoughts community? Not suggesting a similar idea for Fieldron/detonite injector because i got 2-8 thousand samples of both of those items and I doubt any research project needs even half the samples
You lost me here because you made it clear that this is just a selfish request, with no care for consistency. Or long-term thinking for that matter. Just, "I hate Mutagen Sample farming for the Hema, and I want a way to quicken it. But that's literally it, nothing else."
I felt that the Hema problem was caused by them setting the samples based on how many people had and how quickly the other "samples" (Fieldron/detonite) were dropped. The problem is that mutagen samples did not drop at the time, and people only had so many because there was no usage for them at all.

Now there are places where they drop again, and there is some usage for them, but still the most important usage is the Hema, and they don't drop in rates that are respectable for doing that research. It takes time for any clan that isn't focusing on mutagen drops.
Security Cam #7 (禁止済) 2019年9月23日 13時15分 
Why bother with Hema anyways. It's pretty weak to be honest, and there are better more available mastery fodders out there
Pakaku 2019年9月23日 13時25分 
Smelly Fish の投稿を引用:
Why bother with Hema anyways. It's pretty weak to be honest, and there are better more available mastery fodders out there
Building one from scratch, collecting all 5,000 samples, is the true test of Warframe mastery
vid23 2019年9月23日 13時26分 
Smelly Fish の投稿を引用:
Why bother with Hema anyways. It's pretty weak to be honest, and there are better more available mastery fodders out there
the only thing i can think about is beople who want to complete every research in the dojo
and thats the only thing, if you want to buy the gun for mastery and waited years to get it, you might aswell just leave the clan for a couple of days, join to one which have it then go back to the one you were in
or just buy it
Security Cam #7 (禁止済) 2019年9月23日 13時28分 
Pakaku の投稿を引用:
Smelly Fish の投稿を引用:
Why bother with Hema anyways. It's pretty weak to be honest, and there are better more available mastery fodders out there
Building one from scratch, collecting all 5,000 samples, is the true test of Warframe mastery
Nah seems like a waste of mutagen samples to me
vid23 2019年9月23日 13時53分 
Smelly Fish の投稿を引用:
Pakaku の投稿を引用:
Building one from scratch, collecting all 5,000 samples, is the true test of Warframe mastery
Nah seems like a waste of mutagen samples to me
if you think thats a waste, a moon clan needs 500.000 of it
Security Cam #7 (禁止済) 2019年9月23日 14時22分 
vid23 の投稿を引用:
Smelly Fish の投稿を引用:
Nah seems like a waste of mutagen samples to me
if you think thats a waste, a moon clan needs 500.000 of it
Well, too bad for them. I am in a 3 person clan so everything is pretty cheap
Something Something Watermelons の投稿を引用:
Unknownguy115 の投稿を引用:
What are you're thoughts community? Not suggesting a similar idea for Fieldron/detonite injector because i got 2-8 thousand samples of both of those items and I doubt any research project needs even half the samples
You lost me here because you made it clear that this is just a selfish request, with no care for consistency. Or long-term thinking for that matter. Just, "I hate Mutagen Sample farming for the Hema, and I want a way to quicken it. But that's literally it, nothing else."
I have enough Fieldron Samples and Detonite Ampules that if I made a bot to automate building them, it'd take well over 4 years to burn through them all.
Qrow Branwen, Drunken Uncle の投稿を引用:
Something Something Watermelons の投稿を引用:
You lost me here because you made it clear that this is just a selfish request, with no care for consistency. Or long-term thinking for that matter. Just, "I hate Mutagen Sample farming for the Hema, and I want a way to quicken it. But that's literally it, nothing else."
I have enough Fieldron Samples and Detonite Ampules that if I made a bot to automate building them, it'd take well over 4 years to burn through them all.
Likewise. But if DE at any point in the future makes projects like the Hema, but for Fieldron and Detonite, then what? More selfish and single minded complaining? Because not everyone is like us with hundreds of thousands of those. So you know such "ideas" like these would pop up.

The point I was trying to make is that OP could've had a decent point if they hadn't made it clear that they were only talking about Mutagen because of the current problem they're having. I don't give any value to whiny single minded "ideas", when it could've been easily fleshed out further to cover not only one's own problems with the current system. It's better to value ideas that come from a place of general improvement, not "fix this problem for me".
I like the idea of Fieldron/Detonite Injector/Mutagen Mass deconstruction since we can get those prebuilt easily from Invasions. I would advocate the more generalized idea of deconstructing ALL of them, not just Mutagen Masses. That isn't a "fix this for me" idea, that's an idea that makes sense as a general design improvement.
Light 2019年9月23日 19時53分 
Pakaku の投稿を引用:
Or DE could just... reduce the Mutagen Sample cost for the Hema. b i g t h i n k m o m e n t

Good point. xD
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