Mastery Rank 9 exam is nigh impossible to complete

[tipsyConfection]

I failed this test 3 times already, and mirriad more times in Practice.
I was only able to finish it in practice, and only 3 times.
I do everything that would lead to success, both based on videos from other players, general strategies and my own attempts.
It doesn't work, because, seemingly, enemies keep reacting randomly every time. Either that, or everything must be SO PRECISE, any deviation would result in a completely different result.
And i'm not even mentioning the now completely broken hyper-awareness enemies now posess.
I'm going insane trying to conquer this test, i'm seriously thinking about asking someone else to do this for me because i can't be sure if it's just my abysmal luck.
This shouldn't be such a relatively early test, or at least stealth in general should be properly fixed.
This is almost completely impossible unless you're "speedrunner precise" or lucky.
I wish DE would either do something about it, or STOP TIME GATEKEEPING US FROM ACHIEVING MR.

[Johnnyfive401]

There seems to be a lot of people having difficulty with this one. Maybe it does need to be tuned a bit. The peanut gallery here filled with git guds might tell you otherwise though.

If you do a search on here for this test here there are a lot of threads that might help.

[Kawalorn]

Yeah, hard to say for veterans how hard is it these days. I just no-brained it with old Ash's Blade Storm, but that's obviously not available anymore.

[Wintermute]

Is it the stealh one? Used to cheese similar test with Banshee and Redeemer, just sniping enemies from spawn.

[Donitsi]

Take a look at these threads. They will help

https://steamcommunity.com/app/230410/discussions/0/1629665087693671057/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/230410/discussions/0/3166519278494943025/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/230410/discussions/0/2552901289717540433/

[tipsyConfection]

引用自 Wintermute：

Is it the stealh one? Used to cheese similar test with Banshee and Redeemer, just sniping enemies from spawn.

I tried using Redeemer (without Banshee since i don't have her yet, in production), but it didn't help anyway.
You can't snipe anyone from the previous section because the damage disperses so hard it only does, what, 5 damage? If hits at all.
And if you DON'T kill an enemy first try, he will go alert and notice you all across the map because Alert status triples their range or smthn.
And even if you do, now any other enemy who's not looking in a completely different direction WILL notice his death and either go alert or straight up detect you. Even if you kill with Channeling turned on.

[Ratt]

This is one of the few tests that won't get you a barrage of "git gud, how could you possibly mess this up, do you have no fingers or what". Just be patient and pay attention to what the enemy can see. If you've already been looking at guides, if they're any good, you should know how many enemies there are and roughly where they are; try to account for them all before you make your move.

[Wintermute]

引用自 Tentacle Monster：

I tried using Redeemer (without Banshee since i don't have her yet, in production), but it didn't help anyway.
You can't snipe anyone from the previous section because the damage disperses so hard it only does, what, 5 damage? If hits at all.
And if you DON'T kill an enemy first try, he will go alert and notice you all across the map because Alert status triples their range or smthn.
And even if you do, now any other enemy who's not looking in a completely different direction WILL notice his death and either go alert or straight up detect you. Even if you kill with Channeling turned on.

Aren't enemies there, like, level 1? I didn't do exactly that test, so that's mostly a guesswork from me.

Modded regular Redeemer was enough in similar test at rank 19 to one-shot any enemy across the map. And Banshee's passive makes Redeemer silent, which is what may be lacking in your case.

[tipsyConfection]

引用自 Ratt：

This is one of the few tests that won't get you a barrage of "git gud, how could you possibly mess this up, do you have no fingers or what". Just be patient and pay attention to what the enemy can see. If you've already been looking at guides, if they're any good, you should know how many enemies there are and roughly where they are; try to account for them all before you make your move.

I did everything, followed every guide and video as much as i could.
I swear they MUST either do stuff slightly differently every time OR any single degree of deviation makes everything fail, and i tried to be as precise as possible, i unfortunately don't have such luxury with only 3 attempts.
I said everything in the actual post, no matter what i did, i only achieved victory 3 times in practice, doing the same things over and over again, completely identical runs with such minor deviations they shouldn't have affected the result.
And yet, they did.
I honestly tried to be as precise as possible, but even then enemies would react differently, sometimes they would go check on me, sometimes they wouldn't, sometimes they notice the death, sometimes they won't.
And they ALWAYS notice me on the pillar, so that's also not an option.
Hell, they would even detect me when i was completely covered by the pillar, just because i wasn't completely hugging the wall.
This is... i dunno, i can't see this as humanly possible right now.
I'm an extremely patient individual, but patience actually only made things worse, because the only 3 times i ifnisihed the test in practice i had to rush Section 3.
I don't know anything anymore and my head hurts.

[tipsyConfection]

引用自 Wintermute：

Modded Redeemer was enough in similar test at rank 19 to one-shot any enemy across the map. And Banshee's passive makes Redeemer silent, which is what may be lacking in your case.

Forgot to mention, my Redeemer WAS modded. Sure it's only Rank 15 right now, but i installed mastered PP on it, so it should've been enough, but now, the damage disperses completely after some distance.

[Daliena]

引用自 Tentacle Monster：

引用自 Wintermute：

Modded Redeemer was enough in similar test at rank 19 to one-shot any enemy across the map. And Banshee's passive makes Redeemer silent, which is what may be lacking in your case.

Forgot to mention, my Redeemer WAS modded. Sure it's only Rank 15 right now, but i installed mastered PP on it, so it should've been enough, but now, the damage disperses completely after some distance.

Level 'er up more and mod it fully. A Redeemer (coupled with Banshee) got me through the MR19 test which is basically MR9 2: Electric Boogaloo, this time with even more enemies and a larger map. And that was less than a week ago if I'm not mistaken, so I kinda doubt (hope) they'd have changed it already.

[Wintermute]

引用自 Daliena：

引用自 Tentacle Monster：

Forgot to mention, my Redeemer WAS modded. Sure it's only Rank 15 right now, but i installed mastered PP on it, so it should've been enough, but now, the damage disperses completely after some distance.

Level 'er up more and mod it fully. A Redeemer (coupled with Banshee) got me through the MR19 test which is basically MR9 2: Electric Boogaloo, this time with even more enemies and a larger map. And that was less than a week ago if I'm not mistaken, so I kinda doubt (hope) they'd have changed it already.

Yeah, I went through patchnotes on Wiki. They never nerfed Redeemer's range or spread. Should still work.

[tipsyConfection]

引用自 Wintermute：

Yeah, I went through patchnotes on Wiki. They never nerfed Redeemer's range. Should still work.

I REALLY hope it'll work.
Though i don't even know what else to add aside for elemental mods.

[Wintermute]

引用自 Tentacle Monster：

引用自 Wintermute：

Yeah, I went through patchnotes on Wiki. They never nerfed Redeemer's range. Should still work.

I REALLY hope it'll work.
Though i don't even know what else to add aside for elemental mods.

Elementals are a no-brainer. I also think I used Reach mod? Can't check at the moment, nor can I say if it actually does anything for the shot, lol.

[tipsyConfection]

引用自 Wintermute：

Elementals are a no-brainer. I also think I used Reach mod? Can't check at the moment, nor can I say if it actually does anything for the shot, lol.

...yeah, Reach might actually be the one to help.
I can't be sure if it actually extends the gun's reach, but i might as well try.

[Hole Diver]

i did this yesterday first two stages ez pz now the 3rd stage u gotta be quck boi here ya go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyLjRWC_cos

also use the practice in simaris's room you can practice all mr ranks