Axi E1 relic going rate

[Shameless Instigator]

I get most people would rather get something out of it and sell that but people are refusing prices like 30 and 35 plat for a relic...... dont think ive ever seen relics worth so much

[Smokey]

Do people really pay that much ?

[Shameless Instigator]

Originally posted by Smokey:

Do people really pay that much ?

People are turning down that much dude

[Rawbeard]

That is seriously over-the-top crazy.

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

The main issue is that, for whatever reason, they decided to not let Axi E1 drop in Interception missions, so people are stuck mainly with Hieracon or its Europa equivalent for farming them.

[Nichtdermann]

First days introduced. ✅
Quite limited drop locations compared to all other relics. ✅
Relic that contains blueprint belonging to one of most expensive warframes. ✅
Will only be available for 1 month. ✅
Axi relic which only drops in C rotations. ✅
1 in 11 chanse of drop. ✅
On first week of Valkyr Prime release Venka Prime blades were going for 50-70 plat, considering that's common drop, it was stupid. Moreover Venka Prime gauntlet were 75-90 plat at that time. Common part that costs almost as much as rare part, fun times.

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

Originally posted by DragonVampire<DvFish><:

I get most people would rather get something out of it and sell that but people are refusing prices like 30 and 35 plat for a relic...... dont think ive ever seen relics worth so much

its because they are stupidly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rare... just to put it into perspective for you bro... i've spent the last day and a half grinding heircron for this key, talking 12+ hours each day trying to get this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ key to drop. Guess what? it hasn't dropped even once... they made the key's drop rate ABSURDLY rare... i cant for the life of me get this thing to drop to even attempt the RNG for the BP... so basically they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up...

How to ruin a players experience 101,
Add new item
Make new item ultra rare
make new item limited duration

I dont think this key will go down in price, they made it to rare, 7% drop rate? that means you could do 20 or 30 excavations and still never see that key not once... you can spend days grinding and never see it... so they have basically gated the new stuff behind a wall to try and force people to get the pack over farming it.

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Originally posted by AzureTheGamerKobold:

Originally posted by DragonVampire<DvFish><:

I get most people would rather get something out of it and sell that but people are refusing prices like 30 and 35 plat for a relic...... dont think ive ever seen relics worth so much

its because they are stupidly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rare... just to put it into perspective for you bro... i've spent the last day and a half grinding heircron for this key, talking 12+ hours each day trying to get this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ key to drop. Guess what? it hasn't dropped even once... they made the key's drop rate ABSURDLY rare... i cant for the life of me get this thing to drop to even attempt the RNG for the BP... so basically they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up...

How to ruin a players experience 101,
Add new item
Make new item ultra rare
make new item limited duration

I dont think this key will go down in price, they made it to rare, 7% drop rate? that means you could do 20 or 30 excavations and still never see that key not once... you can spend days grinding and never see it... so they have basically gated the new stuff behind a wall to try and force people to get the pack over farming it.

I got the relic in one run on Europa excavation.
Then got the Ember BP from that one relic.

[Fishyflakes]

You realize there's still 26 days left for the vault.
Just clam down and wait for the prices to settle if you can't afford it.
If you want to grind it, try being a little more patient. It's only been three days.

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

Originally posted by Fishyflakes:

You realize there's still 26 days left for the vault.
Just clam down and wait for the prices to settle if you can't afford it.
If you want to grind it, try being a little more patient. It's only been three days.

I'm annoyed because of the rarity i'd be fine if i got a key and didn't get the BP, but its the fact i've done countless heircron runs and have yet to see the key drop even once. The Key itself is to rare, this is like when Blizzard put the best warlock staff in the game, at a .01% drop rate and i spent entire vanilla experience, trying to get that staff, but never got it...

Its one thing to make the item itself rare though, but this is the KEY itself being super rare... why is the key rare? it makes zero sense to me... oh wait no it makes perfect sense! they don't want us to farm it they want us to buy the pack... this is why ultimately F2P fails, as the incentive to cave and buy ♥♥♥♥ is always to strong a desire to resist...

Make the BP rare for all i care, but increase the drop rate on the effing key already

Edit:

26 days? now factor in that you can grind for days and never get a single key, now factor in that even if you GET the key you probably won't get the BP to drop... and you suddenly realize how little time you actually have to get ember prime...NOW factor in people that have real lives on top of it and it and you realize its really not very long at all to get what you need and, its a very likely scenario to never ever get the item you need for the entire month because of the rarity of the key itself.

[[88th] ColPresumptuous]

Given teh returns on the investment yeah, that price is actually pretty good. Ember Prime BP is around the 200+ range at the low end, ive seen it up to 300p and higher in Trade. So yeah an investment of 50p or so to get back almost 6 times what you put in is driving up prices... people like to gamble and with the odds in game, that relics pretty good.

Funny thing is I got all the Ember prime bps on day one and rushed its construction yesterday morning... guess its just an aberation of Trading, that one item that will always even when in an increased supply will keep its going price higher than you'd expect.

Funny thing with E1 relics is, id say the 4 Axi's ive farmed for in the last day, 3 have been E1's... guess some people have had a real hard time with rng.

Another funny thing is, yesterday a guy ignored my attempt to get into his Group because I wanted to run a radiant axi e1, he wanted everyone to have intact and refused me because I only had a Radiant... now thats some messed up stuff there.

[fragball]

Originally posted by AzureTheGamerKobold:

Originally posted by DragonVampire<DvFish><:

I get most people would rather get something out of it and sell that but people are refusing prices like 30 and 35 plat for a relic...... dont think ive ever seen relics worth so much

its because they are stupidly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rare... just to put it into perspective for you bro... i've spent the last day and a half grinding heircron for this key, talking 12+ hours each day trying to get this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ key to drop. Guess what? it hasn't dropped even once... they made the key's drop rate ABSURDLY rare... i cant for the life of me get this thing to drop to even attempt the RNG for the BP... so basically they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up...

How to ruin a players experience 101,
Add new item
Make new item ultra rare
make new item limited duration

I dont think this key will go down in price, they made it to rare, 7% drop rate? that means you could do 20 or 30 excavations and still never see that key not once... you can spend days grinding and never see it... so they have basically gated the new stuff behind a wall to try and force people to get the pack over farming it.

beside from not dropping everywhere it could, it not THAT rare at all - don't belive me? check the raw-data yourself then: https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData/commit/82ea970499914dc847c88f6bbcf6f47caec11d52#diff-d5561246c5e26973f69cf7f18ace874fR224
if anything, because of the unvaulting, the drop chances for all the other relics got lowered - no fun at all. they rather should put out some of the useless mods in the droptable.

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

Originally posted by Fragball:

Originally posted by AzureTheGamerKobold:

its because they are stupidly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rare... just to put it into perspective for you bro... i've spent the last day and a half grinding heircron for this key, talking 12+ hours each day trying to get this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ key to drop. Guess what? it hasn't dropped even once... they made the key's drop rate ABSURDLY rare... i cant for the life of me get this thing to drop to even attempt the RNG for the BP... so basically they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up...

How to ruin a players experience 101,
Add new item
Make new item ultra rare
make new item limited duration

I dont think this key will go down in price, they made it to rare, 7% drop rate? that means you could do 20 or 30 excavations and still never see that key not once... you can spend days grinding and never see it... so they have basically gated the new stuff behind a wall to try and force people to get the pack over farming it.

beside from not dropping everywhere it could, it not THAT rare at all - don't belive me? check the raw-data yourself then: https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData/commit/82ea970499914dc847c88f6bbcf6f47caec11d52#diff-d5561246c5e26973f69cf7f18ace874fR224
if anything, because of the unvaulting, the drop chances for all the other relics got lowered - no fun at all. they rather should put out some of the useless mods in the droptable.

I don't really care what some table says i vouche for what my OWN experience is, after HOURS and HOURS and HOURS of farming and not seeing a single effing key, i'm telling you its to low a chance. The inability to get the key is insane... i've tried every area, and farmed every spot to no avail. This key just doesn't exist... and i've seen enough people inquiring about its drop location to believe that it isn't dropping for people or very rarely... i'm getting every other key but not the E1.

Edit:
The PROBLEM i have with this system is the same issue i had with Xenoverse 1's RNG, its RNG on top of RNG, so they made the key extreamly rare, and then the BP is also super rare... so if you DO happen to get the key, you still probably won't get the BP... so let's say you spend 18 hours to get a key, which is about what i've put in and not seen a single one. So 18 hours of farming, you get the key, you buff it up to rad, you get a rad group... it could still take at bare minimum 2-3 rad groups before you got the BP and that's a bast case scenario, so that's 3 keys, 18x3=54 hours of CONSTANT play for one single item... the average player doesn't really put that kind of time into warframes...

its a problem, i dont mind the randomness of the relics what bugs me is the randomness of the keys... that system needs to go, just let us craft the keys we want and call it a day.

[Nichtdermann]

Originally posted by AzureTheGamerKobold:

Originally posted by Fragball:

beside from not dropping everywhere it could, it not THAT rare at all - don't belive me? check the raw-data yourself then: https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData/commit/82ea970499914dc847c88f6bbcf6f47caec11d52#diff-d5561246c5e26973f69cf7f18ace874fR224
if anything, because of the unvaulting, the drop chances for all the other relics got lowered - no fun at all. they rather should put out some of the useless mods in the droptable.

I don't really care what some table says i vouche for what my OWN experience is, after HOURS and HOURS and HOURS of farming and not seeing a single effing key, i'm telling you its to low a chance. The inability to get the key is insane... i've tried every area, and farmed every spot to no avail. This key just doesn't exist... and i've seen enough people inquiring about its drop location to believe that it isn't dropping for people or very rarely... i'm getting every other key but not the E1.

Edit:
The PROBLEM i have with this system is the same issue i had with Xenoverse 1's RNG, its RNG on top of RNG, so they made the key extreamly rare, and then the BP is also super rare... so if you DO happen to get the key, you still probably won't get the BP... so let's say you spend 18 hours to get a key, which is about what i've put in and not seen a single one. So 18 hours of farming, you get the key, you buff it up to rad, you get a rad group... it could still take at bare minimum 2-3 rad groups before you got the BP and that's a bast case scenario, so that's 3 keys, 18x3=54 hours of CONSTANT play for one single item... the average player doesn't really put that kind of time into warframes...

its a problem, i dont mind the randomness of the relics what bugs me is the randomness of the keys... that system needs to go, just let us craft the keys we want and call it a day.

Get "AFK" team (banshee, ev trinity, buff rhino and whatever second buff, all with corrosive projection) and go farm Hydron or uranus intercept with 4 hydroids, since it apears that they added it there in last patch as well as in kala-azar and suggested above hydron. With that set up you can pretty much do whatever and let game play itself, so farming for that 9% rng be less annoying. Remember farming alot for valkyr relic, got 2 in 3 days post release and as of now total amount of axi v5 i got is 5.
Once again, rng is rng.

[Sterling]

Originally posted by Fishyflakes:

You realize there's still 26 days left for the vault.
Just clam down and wait for the prices to settle if you can't afford it.
If you want to grind it, try being a little more patient. It's only been three days.

What's getting vaulted, again?