Carrier weapon and stealth

[Anonn 20 16]

I just got my first sentinel carrier and i can equip it's gun, but should i? looking through the mods i got so far one of them is strike and there is a question that keeps coming to mind. i usualy choose to go the stealthy way and i'm afraid the sentinel will ruin it for me. does carrier attack enemies that i attack and/or does it attack whenever there is an enemy close by? i probably won't use strike and i can't decide if i should put the gun on if it will ruin my stealth game style

[zvampen]

For me it feels like the carrier attacks whenever it feels like.

[ShunTheWitch]

My sentinal lost it's pew pew privlages a while back, i prefer not giving my wyrm the chance to screw me up while being sneaky.

Take away his pew pew privlages.

[robruckus65]

I never let my sentinals shoot their guns all tehy get is their special ability survivability stuff and tehn support mods like medi ray gaurdian and sanctuary...

[Anonn 20 16]

that's what i thought so i'll be leaving the gun out. i was sure i got a mod for my sentinel to attack only the enemies that attack me but as i don't see it there i assume it's for a specific sentinel only. too bad

[Papa Shekels]

As far as I have seen, all sentinels stay stealthy with you. They never attack if you are invisible or cloaked in any way, and they will not attack unless the enemy spots you when you are visible.

[Normal Lee]

I always unequip weapons on my sentinels if I decide to use them.

[Asphe]

anonn님이 먼저 게시:

I just got my first sentinel carrier and i can equip it's gun, but should i? looking through the mods i got so far one of them is strike and there is a question that keeps coming to mind. i usualy choose to go the stealthy way and i'm afraid the sentinel will ruin it for me. does carrier attack enemies that i attack and/or does it attack whenever there is an enemy close by? i probably won't use strike and i can't decide if i should put the gun on if it will ruin my stealth game style

If you are stealthed, your sentinel will not attack.

The attack precept Striker lets the carrier attack any hostile* targets within 5m [maxed rank precept mod].

The 'field of view' of a sentinel isn't necessarily 360 / spherical. It just feels that way ^_^. Other times, it can take ages to see something right underneath it's nose.

*hostile also means your fellow team-mates if the sentinel has the radiation status effect... and yes, that includes YOU.

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This is a decent list of mods to put on your Carrier and the order DOES matter.

Regen, Medi-Ray, Sanctuary, Fired-Up, Guardian
Vacuum, Enhanced Vitality, Metal Fiber, Animal Instinct, Striker

Basically if your Carrier has the above setup, it will 'obey' the Striker mod 'last'. So if it goes to zero health but there's an enemy nearby, it will first take the time to use Regen, then attack the enemy. The priority goes from left to right, then bottom row, also left to right. For the list above, the relevant mods are Regen, Medi-Ray, Sanctuary, Guardian, Vacuum & Striker [the rest of the mods do their own thing, all the time ^_^].

Striker's 5m activation range also means that the Sweeper is usually the best weapon for the Carrier.

For high level mobs, I use:

Shotgun Spazz, Hell's Chamber, Toxic Barrage, Shell Shock, Frail Momentum, Vicious Spread, Scattering Inferno & Frigid Blast.

Yeah, the DPS is kinda on the low end, but since it's "high level" mobs, the almost 80% status change lets the carrier knockdown any mob that's within 5m. This is the 'pet' & config I'd take on tougher missions.

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Papa Shekels님이 먼저 게시:

As far as I have seen, all sentinels stay stealthy with you. They never attack if you are invisible or cloaked in any way, and they will not attack unless the enemy spots you when you are visible.

If you are invisible/cloaked, yes, a sentinel will not attack. However, I have had numerous experiences with my sentinel (Wyrm Prime for me) blowing my cover for me. What seems to happen a lot is that, when you are in the middle of sneak-attacking an enemy while not cloaked, the sentinel acts as though enemies have detected you and begins initiating combat-based precepts (often the radial knockdown for me, followed by shooting at the now-alerted enemies on the floor).
My recommendation would be to not remove the sentinel's weapon (thus preventing you from leveling the weapon), but rather to just not slot in the Striker precept (or whatever other name it goes by for other sentinels). This will free up a mod slot for your sentinel, while also preventing it from shooting at anything.

[MystMan]

Enemies have 3 states shown on the radar, you need a mod equipped that enables this (Animal Instinct, Enemy Radar or Enemy Sense):
1. unalerted -> empty arrow
2. alerted enemy -> semi-filled arrow
3. hostile enemy -> filled arrow

For 2 and 3, your sentinel will always fire on them. Never for 1. If it does, then you are too close to the enemy and touched it (or Coolant Leak mod did it) making it alerted.

Wyrm's Crowd Dispersion and Djinn's Fatal Attraction work on their own even with unalerted enemies, thereby breaking the stealth. I don't recommend these sentinels if you want to remain unnoticed.

[zvampen]

MystMan님이 먼저 게시:

Enemies have 3 states shown on the radar, you need a mod equipped that enables this (Animal Instinct, Enemy Radar or Enemy Sense):
1. unalerted -> empty arrow
2. alerted enemy -> semi-filled arrow
3. hostile enemy -> filled arrow

For 2 and 3, your sentinel will always fire on them. Never for 1. If it does, then you are too close to the enemy and touched it (or Coolant Leak mod did it) making it alerted.

Wyrm's Crowd Dispersion and Djinn's Fatal Attraction work on their own even with unalerted enemies, thereby breaking the stealth. I don't recommend these sentinels if you want to remain unnoticed.

I never knew that you could use the mini map like that.

[Papa Shekels]

MystMan님이 먼저 게시:

Wyrm's Crowd Dispersion and Djinn's Fatal Attraction work on their own even with unalerted enemies, thereby breaking the stealth. I don't recommend these sentinels if you want to remain unnoticed.

That probably explains why it never happens to me. I run a Helios with the sweeper prime, and its precepts are scanning and attacking enemies. Obviously, a stealth build would want Shade, but other sentinels are viable too

[ShunTheWitch]

Papa Shekels님이 먼저 게시:

MystMan님이 먼저 게시:

Wyrm's Crowd Dispersion and Djinn's Fatal Attraction work on their own even with unalerted enemies, thereby breaking the stealth. I don't recommend these sentinels if you want to remain unnoticed.

That probably explains why it never happend to me. I run a Helios with the sweeper prime, and its precepts are scanning and attacking enemies. Obviously, a stealth build would want Shade, but other sentinels are viable too

Shade never made sense to me because the cloak would randomly break and i'm not bullet jumping attacking anything just trying to be passive and it just breaks the cloak randomly, so i got rid of my shade, i have no idea why it could have something to do with activation range.

[Fishyflakes]

Can you have more than 4 Precepts on a sentinel?

[ShunTheWitch]

Fishyflakes님이 먼저 게시:

Can you have more than 4 Precepts on a sentinel?

I'm pretty sure you can put more than 4 precept mods on one i would have to check my sentinal to confirm that. i'm sure another would be able to before i finish updating mods.

[Kawalorn]

From what I tested, as long as no has seen you sentinel won't attack. As soon as one enemy sees you, he will start attacking the nearest one, even if you could take down the one that saw you before he can alert others.

I personally mostly don't put guns on sentinels because they keep stealing my XP.