22 Axi A2 Radient relices later...

[Spyfox97]

And it finally gave me the Aklex prime link.

[anaphylactic god]

why dont just buy it with plat ?
you spend so much prime parts on those ducats you could probably buy five of aklex links

[Spyfox97]

Originally posted by anaphylactic god:

why dont just buy it with plat ?
you spend so much prime parts on those ducats you could probably buy five of aklex links

From who?
The ones that overprice it on the trade chat?
Thanks but no thanks i'd like to work my ass off for some prime stuff thats ACTUALLY obtainable and not vaulted.....yet.

[fragball]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by Totally Innocent Chatbot:

There's always somebody making this conspiracy theory for every relic there is. It's just a bit louder for harder-to-get relics like Baro's Aklex Prime relic or the one that dropped Ember Prime's blueprint when her and Frost got unvaulted.

I provided rather substantial evidence. In addition, when several hundred radiants are run in our clan and only one Link is dropped in the clan (during my last few final attempts with pug radshare cause everyone in clan ran out of the relics from mass spamming the day after Baro left) it ends up being pretty decent evidence. In a normal rare drop you get it in 2-6 radshares (aka 8-24 relics) vs several hundred.

Originally posted by i ♥ kaceytron:

It's the only one that has complaints about the drop rate because it's the only one (vaulted excluded of course) that you cant go farm for

And lol at DE being known for "shady stuff"... yea, sure

Are you new here? Do you know why datamining became a thing in Warframe and DE promised more transparency and honesty but the dataminers had to stop?

Of course, no one bothers to disprove my evidence. Not even a single point. Go figure.

your "evidence" is only of a statistical value, nothing more. it's still in the normal range of the rng - even if you had spend double or ten times the amount of relics, the chance is always the same.

sure, the thing about rng's is that you never can be sure about them really being "random" as it's claimed - but even all the data-mining can't prove a manipulation if there isn't any in the drop/reward table files, but "hardcoded" in the binaries. for that you would have to spend a lot of time analysing the reverse engineered code of the game... a time consuming method and also ilegal in most parts of the world.
in the end, you either trust that DE isn't "ripping" you of (funny, since it only cost us time that we spend freely and hopefully having fun doing so) or you don't and stop playing the game.
paranoia in a small dosis is a usefull thing, too much, not so.
oh, and ofc no one bothers to disprove your "evidence", since it isn't evidence at all (i already said that, right?). the way you've written them, it also is no wonder people don't bother with it - even IF they could.
btw, i ran for the aklex parts needed (link and BP) 5 times so far with clan mates and always got both parts (4ppl rad-relics) in around 4-7 runs. they never felt anymore good or bad in chances than any other relics i tried to get the rare or common drops from (and yes, i even took notes about a lot of the relics after we got the system).

[WZ]

I have opened 200+ of these relics - all in radshares - and I believe the droprate is lower than other relics. I can't decode the game or datamine or otherwise provide concrete proof. All I can say is that it is a sufficient sample size for me to be convinced. 10% per rad relic, would be around 34% chance for a full radshare? More like 20% on this one.

Still worth the ducats & credits imho, just a bit disappoiting to "know" they fiddle like this.

[robruckus65]

Originally posted by WZ:

I have opened 200+ of these relics - all in radshares - and I believe the droprate is lower than other relics. I can't decode the game or datamine or otherwise provide concrete proof. All I can say is that it is a sufficient sample size for me to be convinced. 10% per rad relic, would be around 34% chance for a full radshare? More like 20% on this one.

Still worth the ducats & credits imho, just a bit disappoiting to "know" they fiddle like this.

Rng is rng. They have no reason to weight a relic that doesnt have prime parts they sell themselves. If it was for prime sets out on prime access then they would have some sort of incentive. WIth true rng no matter your sample size you will never find the true percentage drops since it is completely random it is completely possible to get the same exact drop 100 times in a row or run 1000 radiants and never get the rare. It isn't probable but it is possible.I have gone hundreds of hours never seeing certain rare mods drop the ones wiht the really low .01% drop chance and then suddenly in 1 mission I get 2 of them.

[anaphylactic god]

Originally posted by Syfox97:

Originally posted by anaphylactic god:

why dont just buy it with plat ?
you spend so much prime parts on those ducats you could probably buy five of aklex links

From who?
The ones that overprice it on the trade chat?
Thanks but no thanks i'd like to work my ass off for some prime stuff thats ACTUALLY obtainable and not vaulted.....yet.

every relic is 50 ducats so 22 relics = 1100 ducats.
you can buy 2 prisma weapons for those ducats and sell them for 60-70 plat each
you can purchase aklex prime link for 30 plat on warframe.market

[Spyfox97]

Originally posted by anaphylactic god:

Originally posted by Syfox97:

From who?
The ones that overprice it on the trade chat?
Thanks but no thanks i'd like to work my ass off for some prime stuff thats ACTUALLY obtainable and not vaulted.....yet.

every relic is 50 ducats so 22 relics = 1100 ducats.
you can buy 2 prisma weapons for those ducats and sell them for 60-70 plat each
you can purchase aklex prime link for 30 plat on warframe.market

Sorry but not everyone follows the econamy tactics.
Some of us LIKE to work for our weapons thank you very much.
And the total amount of Relices i bought was 25 so that makes it a total of 1250 ducets that i'v gathered over the span of a month or so. (plus one million credits)