Lenz... it's very powerful!!!

[Makugan Ω]

okay it seems lenz is pretty powerful but it's ammo is very consumable but thx to it's inbult ammo converter, you can easily get ammo if your sentiel have vacuum mod equiped. i gotta say Lenz is very powerful and PLZ DE do not nerf it!

[Juneau]

also, don't forget to put an ammo mutation mod on the bow itself to increase ammo convert efficiency

[Kiwimaru]

And so the bait for the nerf has been set. Maybe Lenz be nerfed years later

[kknd]

If you don't want something nurfed, and it's not broken, do not speak of it as 'powerful'. Call it 'fine' or 'workable' or say it 'does the job'.

Their are things out there Kiddo, things that hunt 'powerful' things.

[WereChicken]

Originally posted by Comrade Necron:

also, don't forget to put an ammo mutation mod on the bow itself to increase ammo convert efficiency

The ammo max is so low there's almost no point to having ammo conversion on there.

[r-kid]

Originally posted by WereChicken:

Originally posted by Comrade Necron:

also, don't forget to put an ammo mutation mod on the bow itself to increase ammo convert efficiency

The ammo max is so low there's almost no point to having ammo conversion on there.

It has in built ammo mutation, so you'll be wasting a slot adding it.

[fragball]

it's a good weapon, but still easily outperformed by many other weapons. as a tactial weapon it's more usefull than most other launcher-type weapons (and yes, i count it into this category for it does not really behave like a bow at all).

[WereChicken]

Originally posted by r-kid:

Originally posted by WereChicken:

The ammo max is so low there's almost no point to having ammo conversion on there.

It has in built ammo mutation, so you'll be wasting a slot adding it.

That's my point. Besides you can always just take carrier if you ever have something with a high ammo consumption.

[Hulk Hogan 1377]

Originally posted by WereChicken:

Originally posted by Comrade Necron:

also, don't forget to put an ammo mutation mod on the bow itself to increase ammo convert efficiency

The ammo max is so low there's almost no point to having ammo conversion on there.

Yup

[OneBuckShort]

Originally posted by r-kid:

Originally posted by WereChicken:

The ammo max is so low there's almost no point to having ammo conversion on there.

It has in built ammo mutation, so you'll be wasting a slot adding it.

So the mod wont stack with it?

[WereChicken]

Originally posted by emlymnsn:

Originally posted by r-kid:

It has in built ammo mutation, so you'll be wasting a slot adding it.

So the mod wont stack with it?

it might, but it's hard to tell as it's own ammo mutator pretty effectively does the job already.

It really isn't worth wasting a mod slot on an ammo mutation mod though

[Kawalorn]

Originally posted by emlymnsn:

Originally posted by r-kid:

It has in built ammo mutation, so you'll be wasting a slot adding it.

So the mod wont stack with it?

The built in mutator already fills the ammo to max with just one pickup, regardless of the type. Therefore using an ammo mutation mod is a 100% waste.

[garth033]

Originally posted by Fragball:

it's a good weapon, but still easily outperformed by many other weapons. as a tactial weapon it's more usefull than most other launcher-type weapons (and yes, i count it into this category for it does not really behave like a bow at all).

Right you are. It is not a bow, it's an APG (Arrow Propelled Grenade).

[Zhaeph]

Lenz is too OP.. it should be nerfed

[fragball]

Originally posted by Zhaeph:

Lenz is too OP.. it should be nerfed

yes, as well as some peoples brain should be upgraded too...

[Ishawi1996]

The Lenz is a really powerful bow but it's wierd to use.
The problems i have with this weapon is:

Sometimes when you shoot the arrow to a enemy and object like the warframe cryopod, you would see a Cold Proc and no explosion.

You can cold proc yourself when a teammate be in front of you

When you build it for Corrosive, you can one shot lvl 100 Corpus Techs and two shot lvl 100 corrupted Heavy Gunners but against lvl 100 Napalms, it would do barely any damage (I don't have a riven for it or Acolytes mods except for Blood rush but that's for melee). Not sure if the Napalms got a completely different type of armor or the armor scaling on him is ridiculous.

The arrow from Lenz can instantly explode on you instead of exploding twice when you hit frost's snow globe.

A couple of the issues could be bugs but i'm not sure. It's my favorite bow because of the amount of crowd control it got and it does a ton of damage. So the Lenz is not just a bow, it's the BFG of bows.