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123veceu Jul 20, 2017 @ 5:12am
Valkyr Lore (Valkyr Prime)
She was made in in the Zanuka Project lab by Alad V right?
But she has a Prime version, and the Primes comed first but Alad V created her, so Alad V made the Prime version of her? well no... but still
Is she having a Prime version only because every warframe has to have one?
Last edited by 123veceu; Jul 20, 2017 @ 5:13am
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Alas V did not make Valkyr Prime.
And yes, every frame is going to have a Prime variant.
StreamWhenGuy Jul 20, 2017 @ 5:19am 
Don't try to find much lore in this one and in general. If you dig deeper, you'll find many inconsistencies.
Monarch Jul 20, 2017 @ 5:24am 
Here's an example:

Ash Prime > Ash // Ash Koga (Skin)

Valkyr Prime > Valkyr Gersemi > Valkyr

Prime as always, the actual original Warframe; The regular version we use are the 'standardized', or rather I'd call it Tenno reverse engineered version.

As for Valkyr, the Gersemi skin is supposed to be the 'standardized' version of Valkyr, before Alad V captured, and tortured, dissected. Which comes the version we all know - Regular Valkyr. Que the aesthetic of half tore off helmet, spine area skin seems to be pryed off, stain / liquid dripping from the restraint / puncture / nailed hole.

As to why Valkyr Prime have such a striking resemblence to Valkyr itself, I'd say just don't over think it. While Valkyr Prime arm does have similar feature, those aren't restraint. Let's just chalk it up as cruel irony of fate - Valkyr Prime looking like she'd be tortured, and ended up actually being so.

PS. Valkyr wasn't created by Alad V, she was experimented on. Zanuka is the creation of Alad V, made from various Warframe parts and research.

EDIT: As for the exact same abilities Valkyr Prime and Valkyr possess. Look at it this way -
Technical-wise. DE is not going to go out of their way and give Valkyr a new set of skills, that aside, a new set of skills will make it Not-Valkyr Prime.

Lore-wise. See it like this, Valkyr Prime is a warrior, berserker, true to her theme. Her skills are a way of her showing her prowess. And regular Valkyr follows the typical lore we know, possess such rage due to the torture and experiment.
Last edited by Monarch; Jul 20, 2017 @ 5:49am
123veceu Jul 20, 2017 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by ๖𝔪𝔞𝔧𝔬𝔯:
Here's an example:

Ash Prime > Ash // Ash Koga (Skin)

Valkyr Prime > Valkyr Gersemi > Valkyr

Prime as always, the actual original Warframe; The regular version we use are the 'standardized', or rather I'd call it Tenno reverse engineered version.

As for Valkyr, the Gersemi skin is supposed to be the 'standardized' version of Valkyr, before Alad V captured, and tortured, dissected. Which comes the version we all know - Regular Valkyr. Que the aesthetic of half tore off helmet, spine area skin seems to be pryed off, stain / liquid dripping from the restraint / puncture / nailed hole.

As to why Valkyr Prime have such a striking resemblence to Valkyr itself, I'd say just don't over think it. While Valkyr Prime arm does have similar feature, those aren't restraint. Let's just chalk it up as cruel irony of fate - Valkyr Prime looking like she'd be tortured, and ended up actually being so.

PS. Valkyr wasn't created by Alad V, she was experimented on. Zanuka is the creation of Alad V, made from various Warframe parts and research.
Oh... This makes more sense, i thought that Valkyr was made by Alad V :p (i thought that he did the concept of Valkyr), and from what i knew The Primes were the first, so i thought that Alad V made the Prime Version, even tho its impossible because only the orokin could make the Prime versions.I was kinda confused because i thought that Alad V made Valkyr (the concept)
Last edited by 123veceu; Jul 20, 2017 @ 5:43am
Originally posted by 123bomba:
Originally posted by ๖𝔪𝔞𝔧𝔬𝔯:
Here's an example:

Ash Prime > Ash // Ash Koga (Skin)

Valkyr Prime > Valkyr Gersemi > Valkyr

Prime as always, the actual original Warframe; The regular version we use are the 'standardized', or rather I'd call it Tenno reverse engineered version.

As for Valkyr, the Gersemi skin is supposed to be the 'standardized' version of Valkyr, before Alad V captured, and tortured, dissected. Which comes the version we all know - Regular Valkyr. Que the aesthetic of half tore off helmet, spine area skin seems to be pryed off, stain / liquid dripping from the restraint / puncture / nailed hole.

As to why Valkyr Prime have such a striking resemblence to Valkyr itself, I'd say just don't over think it. While Valkyr Prime arm does have similar feature, those aren't restraint. Let's just chalk it up as cruel irony of fate - Valkyr Prime looking like she'd be tortured, and ended up actually being so.

PS. Valkyr wasn't created by Alad V, she was experimented on. Zanuka is the creation of Alad V, made from various Warframe parts and research.
even tho its impossible because only the orokin could make the Prime versions
Alad V is an Orokin. At least according to Hunhow.
123veceu Jul 20, 2017 @ 5:52am 
Originally posted by Omnipresent Oatmeal:
Originally posted by 123bomba:
even tho its impossible because only the orokin could make the Prime versions
Alad V is an Orokin. At least according to Hunhow.
is he? i didnt know that... Thanks!
Biddion Jul 20, 2017 @ 5:54am 
Originally posted by KamisamaLolz:
Don't try to find much lore in this one and in general. If you dig deeper, you'll find many inconsistencies.

Like Greek Mythology
Monarch Jul 20, 2017 @ 5:58am 
Originally posted by 123bomba:
Originally posted by Omnipresent Oatmeal:
Alad V is an Orokin. At least according to Hunhow.
is he? i didnt know that... Thanks!

All Corpus are technically Orokin.

Orokin is all about aesthetic symetry.
Orokin are the perfect perfect perfect being, on the outside anyway.
Corpus are not "Orokin" because they aren't perfect enough.

As lore goes.
We now know Orokin, Twin Queens, aren't a stagnant being, they prolong their life with the ritual. And from the journey up on the sumit, we know that before all hell break loose; The Orokin empire practiced this ritual periodically, picking children of their choice. So in that sense, Orokin ARE Corpus. Think citizen class, Orokins are Noble, Corpus are citizens, Grineer are slaves. But ultimately, Noble are still "human", and citizens are also made up of "human", in this example.
actaully we dont know if alad v is an orokin since hunhow could have simply have not known about the corpus
he did just wake up and the corpus are just as greedy as the orokin

besides what he was is now irrelevant, he is infested now and thats his faction
Last edited by Crystal_Ignition (exo); Jul 20, 2017 @ 6:53am
Archwraith Jul 20, 2017 @ 7:01am 
Originally posted by Crystal_ignition (exo):
actaully we dont know if alad v is an orokin since hunhow could have simply have not known about the corpus
he did just wake up and the corpus are just as greedy as the orokin

besides what he was is now irrelevant, he is infested now and thats his faction
Operation Tubeman cures him, as the community chooses to get the cure for Alad V rather than destroying it per Anyo request. He's no longer infested.
Monarch Jul 20, 2017 @ 7:09am 
Originally posted by Crystal_ignition (exo):
actaully we dont know if alad v is an orokin since hunhow could have simply have not known about the corpus
he did just wake up and the corpus are just as greedy as the orokin

besides what he was is now irrelevant, he is infested now and thats his faction

Do your homework next time, Alad V have been cured.

Simaris Guardman entry, mention there are classes of Corpus, and ones relates to Orokin.
hmmm interesting
didr he take the cure kicking and screaming or has he begrungingly thankfull?
Last edited by Crystal_Ignition (exo); Jul 20, 2017 @ 7:15am
Archwraith Jul 20, 2017 @ 7:16am 
Originally posted by Crystal_ignition (exo):
hmmm interesting
didr he take the cure kicking and screaming or has he begrungingly thankfull?
Dunno how the process of the cure is, but he repaid his debt in Second Dream afterwards.
so THATS why he was so chummy
Yang Jul 20, 2017 @ 7:33am 
Originally posted by Crystal_ignition (exo):
hmmm interesting
didr he take the cure kicking and screaming or has he begrungingly thankfull?
In operation tubemen or whatever it was called, players had the choice of either helping Alad V find a cure in Tyl Regor's lab while Nef Anyo wanted to stop him and sabotage his plan, so no, he was not forced to take it. His infested body might have put a struggle though considering the infested being a hivemind though
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