Anti cheat.

[By The Heavens!]

After looking around for a good decent bit, I still cant find then name for the anticheat warframe uses, which makes me guess its an in-house anticheat. I am not a hacker of any sort, if anything Im incredibly curious if it does have a name to it.

It also seemed as if the name of said anticheat is being refrained from being told in every case I find. If so, and if I can't get a name for it, any real reason for this?

Edit: And side note, is this game cross-platform with the consoles? As in PC players play with console players.

[Gluitina]

Why would you need to know that ?

Hackers have a harder time if they don't know what kind of anticheat is used...

[Fishyflakes]

That is curious.
And no, there is no cross-platform.
The console people use different updates and have different content (always behind a patch or two).

[Sovereign Star]

No, not anti-cheat.

DE has guys manually monitor any suspicious activities of players. From playing the game to trading, everything is monitored by them.

[By The Heavens!]

Originally posted by #:

Why would you need to know that ?

Hackers have a harder time if they don't know what kind of anticheat is used...

I understand this, but any legitmate hacker already knows what it is just by reverse research.

Originally posted by Sovereign Star:

No, not anti-cheat.

DE has guys manually monitor any suspicious activities of players. From playing the game to trading, everything is monitored by them.

Now this is really intresting, Im inclined to not believe this, if not entirely, but this really could be what happening. If so they have a real problem if say they release a new expansion and have an influx of lets say 20k players. DE just wouldn't have the manpower to look at everything on everyone.

[By The Heavens!]

Originally posted by Fishyflakes:

That is curious.
And no, there is no cross-platform.
The console people use different updates and have different content (always behind a patch or two).

And no cross platform is a bit of a shame for a PvE game. I know they have PvP but that is no where near the main focus of the game.

[Houndedheller]

They have previously said that they would like it to be cross platform if the patches caught up, but that it was unlikely that they ever would. I think they've given up on it ever happening. Plus MS and Sony don't tend to play well together with allowing games to be cross platform

[Sceles]

I have never seen any cheaters in Warframe and I also don't see what benefit one would achieve by cheating. It's an online game so obviously you can't use cheats to get cash or items, the most you could do is give yourself infinite hp, infinite dmg, move speed, etc. but again, I've never seen anyone do this, and the benefit would be negligible because you can more or less already do all of that by using frame abilities.

[Anonn 20 16]

Originally posted by Sceles:

I have never seen any cheaters in Warframe and I also don't see what benefit one would achieve by cheating.

normaly yes but don't forget that conclave exists. i have seen people hacking. i don't really play conclave much but i think i've seen 2-3 hackers. just play around during events in conclave... you will see what i'm talking about (it's the time most of them play so they could get the new content or reward)

[Sceles]

Originally posted by anon2017:

Originally posted by Sceles:

I have never seen any cheaters in Warframe and I also don't see what benefit one would achieve by cheating.

normaly yes but don't forget that conclave exists. i have seen people hacking. i don't really play conclave much but i think i've seen 2-3 hackers. just play around during events in conclave... you will see what i'm talking about (it's the time most of them play so they could get the new content or reward)

People who play well get always called hackers, it's the same in every game. To many people it seems hard to accept that there are people who are more skilled than they are and thus they think everyone's hacking.

[MystMan]

People cheat. That will always be a thing on every facet of life.

Even in co-op mode and single player games. Besides versus mode, I have seen a cheater in Left4Dead co-op mode, at least because he made it blatantly obvious. Some might not see this as a bad thing, but it was. He made an Expert Realism game feel like Normal game mode.

Thing about most cheaters is, they hide it well. Most hack scripts can disguise themselves pretty good to the trained eye, that you can't tell the difference between skilled players and cheaters. And you never will.

Conclave has a relatively small playerbase, so I guess it doesn't have many cheaters. But that number certainly isn't ever zero. You'd have to be pretty naive to think that.

I haven't seen the moon landing with my own eyes, that doesn't mean I'm gonna call it fake like those conspiracy crackpots.

[fragball]

Originally posted by Jarl Hallgardursson of Frisia:

After looking around for a good decent bit, I still cant find then name for the anticheat warframe uses, which makes me guess its an in-house anticheat. I am not a hacker of any sort, if anything Im incredibly curious if it does have a name to it.

It also seemed as if the name of said anticheat is being refrained from being told in every case I find. If so, and if I can't get a name for it, any real reason for this?

Edit: And side note, is this game cross-platform with the consoles? As in PC players play with console players.

it is in-build, yes, and not bad either (in case you though of trying something "fishy").
also, a word of warning: if you are a regular coder, allways close your debugging tools before you start warframe or you get nice friendly warning ^.^)
in general, everthing that let you change (or even see) the contend of the memory or the cpu/gpu register might or might not be triggering the warning - and if you run wf anyway, you might get banned for it. of course, if you are clever and willing to take the risks, you can find ways to circumvent detection... at least until you actually change things to cheat - then DE might still get on to you (for they aren't no fools either and know where to look for those "changes" one could do.

[By The Heavens!]

I have no intention of cheating, if anything I would find the game boring if I did. Nor am I really intrested in the cheating aspect at all, I was most intrested about the anti cheat itself.

I find that most anti cheats are garbage, most of you would agree with that, but I havnt run across any hackers on warframe. Not being suprised by this, I was just merely curious as to what anti cheat warframe uses to not see any hackers. I doubt many people would even want to hack this game as its just a grind game, and that would defeat every and any purpous of playing this game.

[Archwraith]

Originally posted by Jarl Hallgardursson of Frisia:

I doubt many people would even want to hack this game as its just a grind game, and that would defeat every and any purpous of playing this game.

Payday 2 is an easy example of grinding game, yet it has enormous amount of cheaters. DLC unlocker, Skin unlocker, infinite health, etc, you name it. Why they do that? Dunno. As you said, it just kills the purpose of the game.

[SilvaDreams]

There is no anti-cheat system because everything is handled server side.
Anti-cheat programs are only needed for crappy games that offload work on the client such as tracking ammo, energy or damage.

[KIREEK]

They use some automated flagging systems for when you trade or play.

Things such as infinite ammo or infinite health are picked up pretty easily and while it will work, the account is flagged and after manual inspection they will most certainly ban it.

Many players have tried cheating, going as far as to use secondary accounts to test things, eventually secondary and even the primary accounts got banned, with so much gameplay going down the drain, hackers have simply stopped doing anything to mess with the game, as it is easily picked up.
Unlocking colors without buying the collor palettes, obtaining warframes or mods that are impossible to have (umbra, prime streamline), will also lead to a ban

Most rule breakers now dedicate to buying and selling accounts or platinum (legal plat or illegal plat), even if the plat seller slips by, the continuous actions are always flagged, so it's a matter of time until DE finds the plat seller, searching his entire trading history and then removing all the plat that was circulated, so all the money you spended on plat is pretty much wasted, if the account reaches a negative plat balance, the system autobans the user and then you are forced to buy platinum without discounts to restore the account to a normal level, the account also receives a 2 month trading ban.