Is it about time warframe had a world of warcraft styled auction house system?

[UnderCroft]

I think it would be an improvement on the game as a whole if an in game auction house was initiated, the main reason against this ( that I have heard ) is the fear of people repeatedly undercutting each other in price. I think it would improve the game, what do you think? I would like to hear your reasons.

[Sceles]

No.

[Holbera]

Originally posted by Sceles:

No.

[Epithet Lost]

Actually what is the difference between auction and the trade system. Random item drops don't exist in wf.

[Sithis]

Unlike in WoW or any other MMO (and no, WoW was not the first game ti implement Auctioning in its curremt shape or form), Warframe's 'high-tier' tradeable items are not exceptionally hard to get for high-level players. Allowing trading of that kind in a game where the amount of tradeable rares circulating through players' inventories would destroy the market itself, as prices for some items would drop to 1 Platinum per piece, or even lower than that. While that might seem like a good thing, it's actually not. Among other things, it would force DE to drastically increase Ducat costs for Baro's items (as getting a lot of Ducats would become much easier). Other than that, it would also create all sorts of nasty disproportions between players' in-game wealth, and would make it geared more towards paywalls (while getting a slot for your warframe right now boils down to running maybe four or five relics to almost surely get at least one piece worth 10-20 Plat, in that case, five runs might net you up to about 1 Plat, considering there even would be people who still need those parts.

[UnderCroft]

Originally posted by Sithis:

Unlike in WoW or any other MMO (and no, WoW was not the first game ti implement Auctioning in its curremt shape or form), Warframe's 'high-tier' tradeable items are not exceptionally hard to get for high-level players. Allowing trading of that kind in a game where the amount of tradeable rares circulating through players' inventories would destroy the market itself, as prices for some items would drop to 1 Platinum per piece, or even lower than that. While that might seem like a good thing, it's actually not. Among other things, it would force DE to drastically increase Ducat costs for Baro's items (as getting a lot of Ducats would become much easier). Other than that, it would also create all sorts of nasty disproportions between players' in-game wealth, and would make it geared more towards paywalls (while getting a slot for your warframe right now boils down to running maybe four or five relics to almost surely get at least one piece worth 10-20 Plat, in that case, five runs might net you up to about 1 Plat, considering there even would be people who still need those parts.

Thank you for responding with an explanation, I see your point, but wouldn't sites like warframe.market indicate that the drop down to one plat in price might not happen for the average items and only effect the common items? Warframe.market is probably an ineffective example because it has a small population of users, but it still makes me curious how the system would work if it was properly inplemented within the game.
You are probably right, Im just tired of trade chat.

[ShunTheWitch]

Originally posted by Seyfert QSR:

Originally posted by Holbera:

Does this look like wow we already have a trade system that works fine we dont need another that will break the ingame economy (as it can be called)

[Sithis]

Originally posted by Und9rCr0ft:

Originally posted by Sithis:

Unlike in WoW or any other MMO (and no, WoW was not the first game ti implement Auctioning in its curremt shape or form), Warframe's 'high-tier' tradeable items are not exceptionally hard to get for high-level players. Allowing trading of that kind in a game where the amount of tradeable rares circulating through players' inventories would destroy the market itself, as prices for some items would drop to 1 Platinum per piece, or even lower than that. While that might seem like a good thing, it's actually not. Among other things, it would force DE to drastically increase Ducat costs for Baro's items (as getting a lot of Ducats would become much easier). Other than that, it would also create all sorts of nasty disproportions between players' in-game wealth, and would make it geared more towards paywalls (while getting a slot for your warframe right now boils down to running maybe four or five relics to almost surely get at least one piece worth 10-20 Plat, in that case, five runs might net you up to about 1 Plat, considering there even would be people who still need those parts.

Thank you for responding with an explanation, I see your point, but wouldn't sites like warframe.market indicate that the drop down to one plat in price might not happen for the average items and only effect the common items? Warframe.market is probably an ineffective example because it has a small population of users, but it still makes me curious how the system would work if it was properly inplemented within the game.
You are probably right, Im just tired of trade chat.

Actually, TradeChat is kind of at least half the point. It requires to put actual effort into trading, because you need to actively look for the buyer/seller, and contact him directly. It also negates effects of price dumping. It is the moment when you as a seller open your item's "sales" list, see the cheapest price being, say, 100 Plat, and set your item for sale at 99 Plat. Next person to do that checks the offers, sees your price of 99 Plat as the sheapest and sets his own item for 98, and so on, until either demand evens it out by buying items at a certain price faster than other players sell them, or the price reaches the absolute minimum.

Now, removing this system allows players to set prices more freely, and prevents the exact numbers from forming, keeping the price disparity rather high - true, there is a guy selling, say, Orthos BP for 10 Plat on WF.market; yet, he is not online right now, and the next one after him sells it for 30. You can either hope the first one will go online, or have to stick with the 30 Plat pricetag - whereas the 10 Plat guy would easily sell his item for 10, the next one drop his own price even lower, and the previous example occurs again.

Also, it allows for all those fancy market things as bartering, swapping item for item, or just negotiating the price - something impossible in an Auction House.

[KIREEK]

DE deploys several strategies to keep you playing the game on the short and long term (construction timers, extractors, argon, login rewards,...) and makes it so that all players share almost the same pacing so that newbies and veterans end up having almost the same content.

a newbie may take 10 minutes to clear an assassination mission and a vet may take 8, that's alot better when compared to stats they had before where new players took 10 minutes and vets took 2.
There is a reason why the next boss rework is phorid, if you like stages where you can't do anything, then expect that in the boss rework, the boss needs to take some time to beat.

They want to make sure you can't get a ton of things (resources, credits, mods, rewards) in a very short ammount of time, this mentality makes sure that you play on the long term, because even if you are a vet, it still takes a minimun ammount of time playing the game, that's all they want, that you keep playing.

If an auction house is included in such a way where regular use of trading chat is pointless, then players would skip a huge ammount of gameplay or grind in a very short ammount of time.

So all this long term effort of making you play the game would go downhill, some players would play and then you would have many players that would simply skip grind, things would be obtained nearly instantly at what would possibly be cheaper prices.

DE still finds the use of trading chat and wasting time trying to find buyers and sellers a good thing, it means you are in warframe and instant gratification comes at a significant cost.

Would i like a auction house? hell yes.
But just because i would keep playing warframe as normal, on the grand scale of things, gameplay would dip alot across all players, leaving only the true passionate players the ones making profit, selling and playing

[Alizarin]

Originally posted by Holbera:

Originally posted by Sceles:

No.

[Fishyflakes]

I sold somebody 25 Orta Sculptures for 1,000p today.
So hell no.

[Stuff]

Originally posted by Fishyflakes:

I sold somebody 25 Orta Sculptures for 1,000p today.
So hell no.

People buy ♥♥♥♥ like this?

[PhellAsleep]

Originally posted by Leila Alizarin:

Originally posted by Holbera:

>.<

No.

[Internet Boy]

Fudge yes. The trade system is beyond horrible and purely there for you to get sick of so you end up buying plat.

So that said, I wouldn't count on it.

[Anonn 20 16]

i don't agree with making such a system. the market is great as is and making an auction style system whould screw over many players. the only way i see the market actualy geting better than now is not exactly directed to the style of the market itself but to change maroos bazaar into something more. bigger, more space for people and make it into something worth going there by having something there. as is it's okay to trade in chat but it's more fun hand to hand style but as is it's not worth it.

[♥♥♥♥ Goboctus]

Understand that current sellers would feel like they are just losing, BUT!

Current trade system makes me just stash stuff in case I bother, but I never will and still have like original Sicarus parts. Then I just play and buy platinum like once every 1-2 years which I did for example use to get Lua mods because I just don't want to spy or do drone formations.

Think currently its very small bubble whos trading for platinum because I can't be the only one, but often I do offer exhange for Prime parts before turning them all to Ducats.

What problem WoW AH has is people undercutting weird numbers, so think it should suggest -1 platinum because it just doesnt matter most of the time if its just cheaper.