How does the tenora beat out the soma prime?

[Criticalfire]

Looking to invest forma (after i spend 5 years building all of them of course) into this gun but is it worth it and i have heard it beats out soma prime from various reddit posts but they dont offer concrete numbers. Help or opinions?

[fun time hippie]

Astherisk původně napsal:

Konachibi původně napsal:

Well of course, it's a charged single-fire shot, you don't bank on something like that being a reliable corrosive armour-stripping firing mode, that's what standard firing mode is for. Secondary fire is for getting high damage crit-hits.

But it's not gonna be high damage if you can't strip armor -.-

well why not use they main rapid fire for armor stripping and gerneral dps damage, and use the heavy fire when some armor is stripped. i got mine to %56 status chance using 2 elemtntal %60dmg %60 status chance with the crit damage with status chance mod. works well stripping some armor than using its alt fire with a headshot

(also im not saying one or the other is better. i see them as sidegrades to eachother.)

[White Gemini]

almost maxxed the tenora and ya soma prime kind of beats it with all the factors in my mind , one thing that kind of sucks is the tenora's bad acurracy ya it builds up but not that well when burst fireing and fire rate is a bit lower overall . secondary fire is pretty useful and strong, crits are better on the soma by a pretty good margin 30%cc and 3.0cd vs 25%cc and 2.5cd ,, they are definitely close to one another.


now one thing that may put the tenora over the soma is tenora's riven disposition level Neutral vs soma's very low faint disposition so tenora has potantal but still wont beat many other stronger weapons with rivens out there .

they should really up soma's riven disposition to Neutral its moved below the bar when rivens first came around..

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Astherisk původně napsal:

Totally Innocent Chatbot původně napsal:

You say that as though you expect Soma Prime to be significantly better against the same foes. It's not. After some Simulacrum testing against the very enemy you just mentioned, the two weapons performed quite comparably, with the Soma perhaps gaining a slight edge just due to its sheer fire rate.

I compared my tenora build to my soma build and they both performed similar, same dps

I'm talking about the alt fire, not the main fire of tenora. Alt fire does no armor stripping

I understand where you're coming from, and in that sense you are right. I won't bother reiterating the info already given in the comments above. I will add this, though - while certainly not nearly consistent enough, if you get a slash proc from a hit with the alt fire... yeah, armor stripping won't be an issue on the target that got proc'd.

[☆SaruもLEX☆]

Konachibi původně napsal:

The Tenora beats the Soma Prime in a few ways. As others have said, it's alt-fire is very strong, heavy caliber can actually be used on it as it has very little effect on the alt-fire, and the weapon gains accuracy as it shoots, so at full spool it's almost 100% accurate even with heavy caliber. It has higher base damage, so each bullet hits harder, has the same crit multiplier, albeit with a small loss in crit chance (not a huge deal tbh) and it has a higher status chance allowing corrosive builds to strip armour more reliably than a Soma Prime can, and finally it also has a faster reload time. It outperforms the Soma Prime in almost every category apart from 3 things. A smaller clip, a slightly lower firing rate and no built-in polarities, but outside of those 3 things, Tenora is a superior weapon.

Higher base damage means nothing due to the soma's crit dmg. They only have the same crit multiplier if you use a charged shot, at which point the crit multiplier doesn't even matter because the soma has already put more rounds down range. The only thing you got right was status. But then again with the build you're talking about the soma and tenora would have almost the same status chance, which again makes it pointless. Seeing as you would have a slower firing weapon that deals less damage and has almost the same status chance.

[Sumerat ♰]

Does No one take the magazine size in to account when comparing the 2 Weapons. I understand that at Lower lvl missions this doesent matter. But when your shooting at a lvl 150 Hvy gunner the amount of bullets per magazine greatly show the Soma P has a Higher DPS.

Than again at Lower lvl missions Both Weapons Will do perfectly fine but looking at higher lvl enemies they are quite a bit different.

[Sumire Violets]

The Tenora and Soma P are very similar
however, the main downside of the Tenora is the MR10 lock

[Wintermute]

HussienPotato. původně napsal:

Soma p is better, why? Cus I do not have Tenora. #Logic m8.

It works if you reverse it. Soma P is vaulted. Tenora is out there for grabbing.

[Konachibi]

Wintermute původně napsal:

It works if you reverse it. Soma P is vaulted. Tenora is out there for grabbing.

True enough. My guess would be that the Tenora works the way it does to fill the void the Soma Prime left behind when it was vaulted. There's not really any other full-auto spooling crit rifles, so Tenora seems to be DE's way of filling in the gap.

[Sumire Violets]

Konachibi původně napsal:

Wintermute původně napsal:

It works if you reverse it. Soma P is vaulted. Tenora is out there for grabbing.

True enough. My guess would be that the Tenora works the way it does to fill the void the Soma Prime left behind when it was vaulted. There's not really any other full-auto spooling crit rifles, so Tenora seems to be DE's way of filling in the gap.

Well, Gorgons, normal Soma fit the bill

[Konachibi]

AquaGear původně napsal:

Well, Gorgons, normal Soma fit the bill

The Gorgon isn't a crit machine like the Soma Prime, even with a good riven a Prisma Gorgon can barely hit decent crit levels, 'the poor man's Soma Prime' is what a crit rivenned Prisma Gorgon is. Normal Soma is generally lacking in all departments, which is why nobody ever uses it except as MR fodder.

[Criticalfire]

So allow me to summarize all the information i have gathered from this thread:
On a basic stat and performance standpoint for endgame:

• Soma P and Tenora are side grades to each other if you have them its your preference
  
• Soma P has a little higher crit compared to Tenora
  
• Tenora has a little higher base damage compared to Soma P and has charged shots
  
• Tenora has a higher riven disposition than Soma P
  
• Tenora is available, Soma P is vaulted so which ever one you can obtain doesnt matter
  
• In end game they deal the same amount of damage but Soma P has a higher damage potential due to a higher crit potential
  
• Tenora has reduced accuracy but has a spin up time and gains accuracy overtime. Soma P has more accuracy suited for burst fire.

Feel free to add on to anything i have missed by to summarize both are closely similiar stat-wise but Tenora has a higher riven disposition which could potentially have it out class soma p but otherwise Soma P has higher crit and damage potential in the long run.

[Konachibi]

Criticalfire původně napsal:

So allow me to summarize all the information i have gathered from this thread:
On a basic stat and performance standpoint for endgame:

• Soma P and Tenora are side grades to each other if you have them its your preference
  
• Soma P has a little higher crit compared to Tenora
  Tenora has a little higher base damage compared to Tenora and charged shots[/b]
  
• Tenora has a higher riven disposition than Soma P
  
• Tenora is available, Soma P is vaulted so which ever one you can obtain doesnt matter
  
• In end game they deal the same amount of damage but Soma P has a higher damage potential due to a higher crit potential
  
• Tenora has reduced accuracy but has a spin up time and gains accuracy overtime. Soma P has more accuracy suited for burst fire.

Feel free to add on to anything i have missed by to summarize both are closely similiar stat-wise but Tenora has a higher riven disposition which could potentially have it out class soma p but otherwise Soma P has higher crit and damage potential in the long run.

The Tenora can even outgun the Tenora, 'nuff said. :P

[Sumire Violets]

Konachibi původně napsal:

Criticalfire původně napsal:

So allow me to summarize all the information i have gathered from this thread:
On a basic stat and performance standpoint for endgame:

• Soma P and Tenora are side grades to each other if you have them its your preference
  
• Soma P has a little higher crit compared to Tenora
  Tenora has a little higher base damage compared to Tenora and charged shots[/b]
  
• Tenora has a higher riven disposition than Soma P
  
• Tenora is available, Soma P is vaulted so which ever one you can obtain doesnt matter
  
• In end game they deal the same amount of damage but Soma P has a higher damage potential due to a higher crit potential
  
• Tenora has reduced accuracy but has a spin up time and gains accuracy overtime. Soma P has more accuracy suited for burst fire.

Feel free to add on to anything i have missed by to summarize both are closely similiar stat-wise but Tenora has a higher riven disposition which could potentially have it out class soma p but otherwise Soma P has higher crit and damage potential in the long run.

The Tenora can even outgun the Tenora, 'nuff said. :P

The Tenora is a jojoke
That is all

[HiTmAn]

tenora is inferior to soma prime in almost every way u can imagine soma p 200 mag size almost no recoil..

[☆SaruもLEX☆]

HiTmAn původně napsal:

tenora is inferior to soma prime in almost every way u can imagine soma p 200 mag size almost no recoil..

But if tenora prime happens :^)