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Value of Ayatan Treasure?
What are the values of Ayatan Treasures fully charged?

I just sold an Orta (worth 2700 endo) for 5 platinum

Did I get scammed?
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Fishyflakes Feb 26, 2017 @ 3:01pm 
Yes. Kinda.
Ayatans aren't worth selling unless you have like 20 of them.
Then you can start selling for like 10-20p and even more if your buyer is a Prime Access dude with too much plat.
I sell Armored Agility for 4p; I would never ever agree that Armored Agility for Orta Sculpture is an even trade.
Last edited by Fishyflakes; Feb 26, 2017 @ 3:02pm
KIREEK Feb 26, 2017 @ 3:31pm 
No.
A trade only happens when both players agree on a price, or better yet if the buyer accepts the seller price.
If you found 5p to be a fair trade for your statue, then no scam was done, if you fell like you should have gotten more then you must specify this value to the buyer in the chat window before the trade actually happens.

The price differs from player to player but all prices are fair, from 1p to any big number is valid, all that differs is if you accept it or not.

The other player asked, you replied 5, then by all means no scam was done.

Your question seems to be "could i sold it for more", yes, yes you could, this happens for any trade really.
It's similar to that question, "could i get x item for less or even for free from clanmates", yes, yes you could, happens all the time.

I for example, wouldn't buy it because i don't need it, but desperate players might give 50 maybe.
If you should sell it for 5 or 50 isn't the question, you should find YOUR own price, currently sits at 5 and that's perfectly fine.

The faster you (and other players) understand this, the less "omg i got scammed" topics will appear and less lectures on correct pricing will appear
Last edited by KIREEK; Feb 26, 2017 @ 3:36pm
Fishyflakes Feb 26, 2017 @ 3:34pm 
Originally posted by KIREEKPSO:
No.Your question seems to be "could i sold it for more", yes, yes you could, this happens for any trade really.
Words of wisdom here :vsign:
Charmander787 Feb 26, 2017 @ 4:55pm 
Originally posted by Fishyflakes:
Originally posted by KIREEKPSO:
No.Your question seems to be "could i sold it for more", yes, yes you could, this happens for any trade really.
Words of wisdom here :vsign:
If I could have sold it for more then I got scammed. lol

its fine. Everything in this game for me is a learning experience.

Next I just have to make sure to sell for its real value.
Last edited by Charmander787; Feb 26, 2017 @ 4:55pm
Grottowalker Feb 26, 2017 @ 4:55pm 
Originally posted by Fishyflakes:
Originally posted by KIREEKPSO:
No.Your question seems to be "could i sold it for more", yes, yes you could, this happens for any trade really.
Words of wisdom here :vsign:
pretty much his whole post says it all....

Grottowalker Feb 26, 2017 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by Ratatoskr:
Originally posted by Fishyflakes:
Words of wisdom here :vsign:
If I could have sold it for more then I got scammed. lol

its fine. Everything in this game for me is a learning experience.
if you do not know the price of what you are selling then you need to start with a refrence point.

you can give out things for free if you really wanted to.

theres no rush to sell something, if its something people want, mutiple people will want it.

you can pretty much haggle with mutiple people and get a rough idea for price... or get a really good price on something... i got a dual toxocyst riven mod with a great stats for 60p when every other person i was asking was trying to charge 200+

that person you sold it to got a great deal. there is no fixed price, just market trends.
Last edited by Grottowalker; Feb 26, 2017 @ 4:58pm
Monarch Feb 26, 2017 @ 5:55pm 
Hypothetically.

I just sold an Orta (worth 2700 endo) for 50 platinum.
Q: Did I get scammed?

A: @KIREEKPSO's respond: No.Your question seems to be "could I bought it for less", yes, yes you could, this happens for any trade really.

@OP, you see your issue here?
Just because you could've sold it for more, doesn't mean you got scammed. The table can flip easily, and you could've been the one who "scammed" others.
Charmander787 Feb 26, 2017 @ 6:38pm 
Originally posted by ๖𝔪𝔞𝔧𝔬𝔯:
Hypothetically.

I just sold an Orta (worth 2700 endo) for 50 platinum.
Q: Did I get scammed?

A: @KIREEKPSO's respond: No.Your question seems to be "could I bought it for less", yes, yes you could, this happens for any trade really.

@OP, you see your issue here?
Just because you could've sold it for more, doesn't mean you got scammed. The table can flip easily, and you could've been the one who "scammed" others.
um wut

If I sold a thing valued at around 15-20P for 50P I just scammed someone else......


You do understand what scamming means? It means to decieve someone in a deal.

I am not angry about it. I just was eager to sell my item that I did not price check it :P
Monarch Feb 26, 2017 @ 6:59pm 
The problem is that - You don't understand how Warframe market works.

Warframe market has no set value.
If say Orta Ayatan will cease to be obtainable tomorrow, its value will sky rocket to 400p or even more week or so later on.

In your case, you were simply ignorant of how much an Orta Ayatan sculpture usually goes for.

But as long as you agree'd to sell for that price, and the buyer agree'd to pay for that price; And said item is in fact the item you both agree'd to trade for, there's no scam involved. No matter the price.

It'll be considered Scam, if say someone said they're selling Legendary Core, and giving you a Rare Core, and told you that that's a Legendary Core, and charged you for 400p or whatever amount, then that'd be scamming.



In another case, back when Focus Lens were just introduced. DE forgot to put the Greater Lens into the market. People were buying regular Lens at 100p, and Greater Lens at 400p. Few days later, DE fixed the market, and shoved Greater Lens into market for only 40p.

Does that mean players who previously traded for the Greater Lens / Lens for abnormous amount of platinum scammed? No, it was a fair trade. Both parties agree'd to the conditions.


The reason I'm clarifying this for you, is because what you said - "If I could have sold it for more then I got scammed. lol " That is simply not true, so please don't be one of those guys that goes around calling others scammers, or spamming support tickets just because they didn't get a deal that they wish they had.
Zahkriin Feb 27, 2017 @ 8:50am 
As other already said/explained: you got NOT scammed.

But since you wanna know the value/ an estimated price, here's one way to express the value of an ayatan treasure based on the endo costs of maxed mods.

As my reference i'll take the price of maxed legendary (primed) mods listed on https://warframe.market/ .

The offers start around 400, let's calculate with 450p.
To max one of those mods u'll need 40,920 endo, based on this value 1p is worth 90.93333 ~ 91 Endo.
A fully charged Orta (2700 endo) would be worth 29.670.... ~ 30 Plat.

Next time just do your research properly.
Last edited by Zahkriin; Feb 27, 2017 @ 9:07am
Foxtrot39 Feb 27, 2017 @ 9:01am 
Where does that concensus about 1pl = 91 endo come from?
Luke3079 Feb 27, 2017 @ 9:02am 
I traded a venka p gauntlet for the fire status melee mod, I don't think I got scammed??
Zahkriin Feb 27, 2017 @ 9:08am 
Originally posted by Foxtrot39:
Where does that concensus about 1pl = 91 endo come from?
Maxed primed mod = 40,920 Endo wich are sold around 450p (they're higher and lower offers ofc.. i just took that value for calculation). 40,920 / 450 = 90.9333333.

i really thought i dont have to write everything...... but well never expect smth from others. just dont do it... i got it.
Foxtrot39 Feb 27, 2017 @ 9:10am 
So thats why i see at best 3700 endo ayatan sold 15pl everywhere on WF market where it should be more like 45pl...
Zahkriin Feb 27, 2017 @ 9:14am 
Originally posted by Foxtrot39:
So thats why i see at best 3700 endo ayatan sold 15pl everywhere on WF market where it should be more like 45pl...
wel that's how it is.. just bought 3 anasas for 27pl.. did i scam him? Nope, he actually made that offer to me. could i tell him: "hey, they're worth much more....", yes i could - but wich humanbeing would do that?
Last edited by Zahkriin; Feb 27, 2017 @ 10:29am
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