Tier list

[Vexed Darkness]

I know that there isn't really a way to put weapons and warframes into a tier list but Im wondering what most people think are the best warframes and weapons.

[Archwraith]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DdsYLFaWL58_mQeKewm_ejCQdfXM7hSVx9o4PbZ-yD8/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#
Some people did

[JKGames]

Brozime does a yearly weapons and warframes tierlist. Just be aware that these were published before the Limbo/Oberon Rework (their ranking is A and B/B+ currently) and before the recent weapon buffs/nerfs (so obviously the Tonkor/Synoid Simulcor/Telos Boltace ranking went down a lot while some of the buffed weapons like the Ogris went up). In general though the Tierlist still holds for the majority of stuff in it, so its a good place to start:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkjzO3i6qco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDv-xMBb3ys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePT-_02i-I4

[primobrainlet]

godlike: grakata
medium: none
bad:none
worthless dirt: all except grakata

[Nightingale]

All weapons and frames are viable in a way. Primed/syndicate versions are obviously going to be better if that is what you mean by tier.

[Sithis]

It really depends on what exactly you want to be doing - if you are looking for a tanky frame, an all-arounder, a caster, a defense specialist, an affinity/resource farming one and so forth; same with weapons - anti-crowd weapons, AoEs, DoTs, versatile guns, anti-heavies and so on.

Also, about that tlist... It's still more of a general recommendation, as many of the low-tier weapons from the list can be reasonably powerful in certain situations or with certain mod loadouts, and some of the 'better' ones actually suffer from certain issues some players find negligable while others really don't like them for. If you want opinions on some particlar weapons or frames, whether it is "if it's any good?" or "what <thing> would be a good item to have in the <situation>?", feel free to ask about that instead.

[SilvaDreams]

Originally posted by JK21Games:

Brozime does a yearly weapons and warframes tierlist. Just be aware that these were published before the Limbo/Oberon Rework (their ranking is A and B/B+ currently) and before the recent weapon buffs/nerfs (so obviously the Tonkor/Synoid Simulcor/Telos Boltace ranking went down a lot while some of the buffed weapons like the Ogris went up). In general though the Tierlist still holds for the majority of stuff in it, so its a good place to start:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkjzO3i6qco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDv-xMBb3ys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePT-_02i-I4

He's also rather bad at modding weapons​ so I'd take any of his ratings with a fist full of salt.

[KIREEK]

as stated previously, each warframe has it's share of unique skills, it's up to the player to make good use out of them.

Without going into details, i have seen some of brozime videos recently and i stopped watching them instantly after seeing 3 major flaws:
- comparing oberon effective health with other warframes (an uncomparable situation)
- complaining to much about focus, taking ages to adress the real issues and sugestions for improvement were scarse, most of the time was just him complaining
- trying to kill a lvl 140 heavy gunner with smite, then proceding saying it's ♥♥♥♥ when it didn't kill.

Take my sugestion instead, check the warframes and the weapons yourself and mod them the way to fit your gameplay, use the warframes to fit your style and use them in the situations you want.
Some will cast smite to knockdown dangerous enemies and produce ground finishers, they will gain time, proc radiation and so on, others will use smite to kill lvl 140 heavy gunners, which are you, only you can tell.

All i can say is that if you follow brozime sugestions, at the very best, you will be dreadfull.

[JKGames]

Originally posted by KIREEKPSO:

as stated previously, each warframe has it's share of unique skills, it's up to the player to make good use out of them.

Without going into details, i have seen some of brozime videos recently and i stopped watching them instantly after seeing 3 major flaws:
- comparing oberon effective health with other warframes (an uncomparable situation)
- complaining to much about focus, taking ages to adress the real issues and sugestions for improvement were scarse, most of the time was just him complaining
- trying to kill a lvl 140 heavy gunner with smite, then procedint saying it's ♥♥♥♥ when it didn't kill.

Take my sugestion instead, check the warframes and the weapons yourself and mod them the way to fit your gameplay, use the warframes to fit your style and use them in the situations you want.
Some will cast smite to knockdown dangerous enemies and produce ground finishers, they will gain time, proc radiation and so on, others will use smite to kill lvl 140 heavy gunners, which are you, only you can tell.

All i can say is that if you follow brozime sugestions, at the very best, you will be dreadfull.

I suggested the videos as a starting point for a tierlist. Sure there will be disagreements about some stuff as there is always with tierlists. For example, I wouldn't have ranked pre-rework Limbo as low as he did since there were a number of rescue sorties where Limbo came in very useful.

Every Warframe (except Hydroid) has unique skills that can be useful at some point in the game.

Most people don't have time to check out all the weapons especially, so that's where a Tierlist comes in handy.

[KIREEK]

I have a use for hidroid just like all the other warframes and no it's not mastery, i mean an actual use, but this is again, depedant on the player.

[JKGames]

Originally posted by KIREEKPSO:

I have a use for hidroid just like all the other warframes and no it's not mastery, i mean an actual use, but this is again, depedant on the player.

There is nothing that Hydroid does that could not be accomplished better by numerous other warframes that's just fact. For resource gathering Nekros is better than the tentacle monsters. For area Crowd Control Vauban and a bunch of other frames are way better than sad puddle, The 1 is so inconsistent it isn't worth talking about. This leaves Tidal Surge which is ok (not great, but ok). And his stat line is substandard, so there is no real good use for him hence why he desperately needs a rework.

[KIREEK]

Each player has it's own style and it's own gameplay and my use for hidroid is unbeatable by other warframes
This however is aplicable to me, facts made by other players are irrelevant, other players aren't me.

[Normal Lee]

Originally posted by SilvaDreams:

He's also rather bad at modding weapons​ so I'd take any of his ratings with a fist full of salt.

Didn't he classify the Twin Rogga and Orvius as MR fodder?

Like, what.

[JKGames]

Originally posted by KIREEKPSO:

Each player has it's own style and it's own gameplay and my use for hidroid is unbeatable by other warframes
This however is aplicable to me, facts made by other players are irrelevant, other players aren't me.

This is the sad puddle tactic on interception isn't it.

[JKGames]

Originally posted by Marshall Lee:

Originally posted by SilvaDreams:

He's also rather bad at modding weapons​ so I'd take any of his ratings with a fist full of salt.

Didn't he classify the Twin Rogga and Orvius as MR fodder?

Like, what.

I think the issue with the Twin Roggas for him is the point at which you get them during the game. While the damage is high, the status and crit are lacking (for a slow firing weapon especially) and the 2 shot magazine is lackluster. So by that point in the game you should have weapons considered to be more viable. The Orvius has a fun Gimmick, but is kind of hard to use in practice. Throwing Melee has that issue in general which is why it is less popular.

[KIREEK]

Originally posted by JK21Games:

Originally posted by KIREEKPSO:

Each player has it's own style and it's own gameplay and my use for hidroid is unbeatable by other warframes
This however is aplicable to me, facts made by other players are irrelevant, other players aren't me.

This is the sad puddle tactic on interception isn't it.

That is correct, he is the king of teamplay interception as the only enemies you kill or cc are the ones you fight at the start and the ones at the end of the round.
It's boring? yes
Is it effective, yes.