BUG - Bairdotr Quest **SPOILERS**

[Capitan Cachopo]

Hi everyone.

During the quest "The Wild Woman and the Renegade", Bairdotr betrays me and allies with Jareth, having to kill both of them. It was one of my favourite character but it's ok, that's how good RPG games works.

The problem comes when I try to enlist another companion and the party seems to be full when there are only three characters in it.

I've been looking around for a bit and it seems to be a known bug. Some people say that the bug will be fixed with a later patch but... that was on November!!

What could I do? Is there a fix for this problem?

[Raze_Larian]

Currently the only fix is to reload a save before that fight, and then either not bring Bairdotr into the cave or attack Jareth before the conversation with him is triggered.

[Capitan Cachopo]

So... I've lost my game... I don't have any save games before the battle... :(

[Raze_Larian]

There is a fix for this, but I don't have an ETA for when it will be released.
Since there are significant changes in the works (new skills, harder difficulty mode, etc) with the upcoming balancing patch, most fixes are set for that update, with only select ones now being moved to the release branch.

[Raze_Larian]

Originally posted by Capitan Cachopo:

So... I've lost my game...

Actually, the fix may be implemented sooner than I expected...

[Capitan Cachopo]

Thank you so much for your quick response.

I'll wait impatiently for the incoming patch which fixes the problem. I want so badly to finish the game, I love it.

Originally posted by Raze:

new skills, harder difficulty mode, etc

Oh my gosh, more hours to play :D

[larian_octaaf]

This should be fixed in the latest patch, v251

[kaay]

Before the patch Bairdotr did not betray, so there was no problem, after the "fix" Bairdotr betrays despite the fact nothing else changed.
You fixed a bug and created another?.

[Raze_Larian]

Whether Bairdotr switches sides or not is determined by your dialogue choices with her earlier in the game. The patch may have adjusted how some of the choices were weighted, or other factors.

[kaay]

I attempted the Jareth fight before the patch and Bairdotr did not betray, but i could not win the fight.
I did not have any dialogues with Bairdotr since then because i never had her in my party.
Yet now after the patch when i attempted the Jareth fight again, Bairdotr betrays.
Would be nice if the game made any sense at all instead of the constant hocus pocus players are confronted with.

[Raze_Larian]

So things have changed; Bairdotr was out of the party for some time, and you did other stuff, possibly changing the relationship between your main characters, if not with directly Bairdotr.

[kaay]

Originally posted by Raze:

So things have changed; Bairdotr was out of the party for some time, and you did other stuff, possibly changing the relationship between your main characters, if not with directly Bairdotr.

So things have changed without any notice, important things that could lead to losing a party member.
This kind of changes that are obscure to the player is what i called hocus-pocus.
Things like the relationship with party members should not change without the player knowing.
This is probably not a game bug but it is a design bug that imho should be fixed.

[unwaveringresolve]

I can confirm that attaching a character with the Independent trait to Bairdotr changes her decision.

[kaay]

Originally posted by unwaveringresolve:

I can confirm that attaching a character with the Independent trait to Bairdotr changes her decision.

Thank you, i wanted to try that because of her speech "you taught me the virtues of obedience" when defecting, but after running around in search of a dialogue that would let me increase my independent trait i gave up and just killed Jareth without Bairdotr in the team.

[Darmokh9241]

No one is probably still waiting on this reply but I'll say it anyway, for future people:
I just ran into the same bug, but apparantly it helps to save your game on a new slot, exit the game completely, then restart the game and load your new savegame.
Happy hunting!

[tenquixote]

I'm running the latest patch, but Bairdotr still occupies one of the companion spots even though she was thoroughly killed after siding with Jareth. Tried to save on a new slot and restart the game to no avail.