Lone wolf perk (and level up explanations)

[efd731]

So am I missing something? The line wolf perk gives an additional skill point upon level up. But while I occasionally receive that point upon level up, other times I receive no points at all. No points towards strength or intelligence and only a single point towards the "class" skills. Can someone explain this to me? Or direct me to where the game explains it?

[Raxxa]

seems we need mod lone wolf to better...

[feliscon]

Are you sure you're not just spending 2 points at once every other level? Some people have been confused by the costs of abilities (1 point for lvl 1, 2 for lvl 2, 3 for lvl 3 etc.)

[Scrubwave]

My precious lone wolf ;_;

[Gork]

T_T

[Stabbey]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mikael:

They also nerfed lone wolf now. It only gives 60% life, you no longer get 2 action points at the start of the combat and now it only gives 1 extra action point per turn... kinda bummer :/

Really? Because I just checked by making two Rogues, one with Lone Wolf, the other without. Both the description and the actual numbers still indicate that the bonus is +80%.

(The normal rogue had 39 HP. With 60% bonus health, that would be 62 HP, but the actual health of the Lone Wolf Rogue was 70 - or 80% bonus health.)

[efd731]

No, I understand how the costs to upgrade escalate, it just seems that the points I receive are very erratic.

[Mikael]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Stabbey:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mikael:

They also nerfed lone wolf now. It only gives 60% life, you no longer get 2 action points at the start of the combat and now it only gives 1 extra action point per turn... kinda bummer :/

Really? Because I just checked by making two Rogues, one with Lone Wolf, the other without. Both the description and the actual numbers still indicate that the bonus is +80%.

(The normal rogue had 39 HP. With 60% bonus health, that would be 62 HP, but the actual health of the Lone Wolf Rogue was 70 - or 80% bonus health.)

If you check the stats (like vitality, action points) it says the bonus is just 60% from lone wolf. Before the patch a character with 5 con and lone wolf would start with 108 hp, now they start with 91.(and 59hp without lone wolf).

There is also a 15% vitality bonus, but I'm not sure where that comes from.

[efd731]

my understanding is that you receive skill points upon each level up, and a stat point on every other level. but with the lone wolf perk i appear to be receiving 1 skill point and then 2 skill points alternating upon level up. i still receive a stat point every other level.

[Mikael]

So you're saying that with lone wolf, at level 2 you only get one ability point? (also, there are no skill points, there are ability points, talent points and atribute points)

[efd731]

.....because im using the wrong terminology....i get a single point for strength/intelligence/dexterity every 2 levels. i get 1 point and then 2 points alternating on level up for witchcraft/man at arms/scoundrel etc. im level 10 now and have gotten 2 additional points for the "perks" like backstabber or lonewolf. does that better explain?

[Mikael]

Yes, much better now :)

But it seems that your game is bugged than. Without lone wolf you were supposed to get 1 ability point for level 2-5, 2 points for 6-10 and 3 points from then on. So, even without the lone wolf talent you should have always received 2 points after level 5.

Well, unless they changed stuff, it was supposed to be like that. I'm mostly fooling around at low levels and never got that high.

[efd731]

that has not been the case. well, i hope it gets fixed with the patch im currently downloading. are the other point values correct?

[Mikael]

Think so. Attribute points should be 1 every even level and talent points 1 every odd level.

[efd731]

well i only have 2 talent points from level up....so 4 total. maybe a bit off

[Stabbey]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mikael:

If you check the stats (like vitality, action points) it says the bonus is just 60% from lone wolf. Before the patch a character with 5 con and lone wolf would start with 108 hp, now they start with 91.(and 59hp without lone wolf).

There is also a 15% vitality bonus, but I'm not sure where that comes from.

The 15% vitality bonus is for Normal difficulty. I was playing on Hard so had a -25% vitality penalty.

I'm not disputing your numbers, but I can't figure out how the game is calculating the HP.