The Age of Decadence

The Age of Decadence

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=CrimsoN= Apr 15, 2022 @ 7:20am
Best faction for a loremaster?
So I've played a loremaster and beaten the game before as one, but I went through the Boatmen of the Styx questline (the assassins) and honestly looking back on that, I don't feel like it was the best fit. I guess at the time, I figured my loremaster would dab a bit in alchemy and do some assassinations for coin while adventuring on the side.

But what is really the best path for a loremaster to take from anyone else who has played one.

Also, is it possible to become a house loremaster? Like for example, replacing both Feng and Cassius as the House Daratan loremaster? or becoming the loremaster for House Aurelian? How would you go back doing that if it is possible?
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NOIRE- Apr 15, 2022 @ 8:10am 
it suits very well for almost every faction except for Forty Thieves (starting as a thief gives you alot more SP), and perhaps Imperial Guard if you plan to make a pure fighter build.
But imo, loremaster will shine the most in a hybrid build, with just 5 Cha you can already get training from both Feng and Cassius, +1 WoH and 1 power tube.


Originally posted by =CrimsoN=:
So I've played a loremaster and beaten the game before as one, but I went through the Boatmen of the Styx questline (the assassins) and honestly looking back on that, I don't feel like it was the best fit. I guess at the time, I figured my loremaster would dab a bit in alchemy and do some assassinations for coin while adventuring on the side.

nonsense, i'll say loremaster is the best choice, if you stay working for the boatmen (not working for HA in maadoran). Loremaster background has the highest HD rep, thus with even 4 Cha you can still get both training from Feng and Cassius.

Originally posted by =CrimsoN=:
Also, is it possible to become a house loremaster? Like for example, replacing both Feng and Cassius as the House Daratan loremaster? or becoming the loremaster for House Aurelian? How would you go back doing that if it is possible?

you cannot join house daratan in teron without choosing the praetor background.

there is always a way to join House Aurelian in maadoran, even if you mess things up in teron, as long as you join a faction and not guildless in teron.
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=CrimsoN= Apr 15, 2022 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by NOIRE-:

you cannot join house daratan in teron without choosing the praetor background.

there is always a way to join House Aurelian in maadoran, even if you mess things up in teron, as long as you join a faction and not guildless in teron.

Is there anyway to join a House as a loremaster? Better yet, is it possible to start as a praetor/loremaster hybrid? and receive training from Feng and Cassius or do you have to start as a loremaster to receive training from Feng?

Can you also join House Crassus as a loremaster? Yeah I remember the possibility of joining House Aurelian when doing the Boatmen questline. Can you still join House Aurelian though if you go praetor?

Thanks for your reply btw!
Last edited by =CrimsoN=; Apr 15, 2022 @ 8:42am
woobski bratan Apr 15, 2022 @ 10:58am 
Like NOIRE said, loremaster can work pretty well with all factions. Personally though I feel like loremaster to House Aurelian works the best. You get lots of options to flex your knowledge and during the course of the HA questline you will find many ruins with lots of lore and other cool stuff.

Originally posted by =CrimsoN=:
Also, is it possible to become a house loremaster? Like for example, replacing both Feng and Cassius as the House Daratan loremaster? or becoming the loremaster for House Aurelian? How would you go back doing that if it is possible?

Don't think that you can do that, either Feng or Cassius are loremasters in Teron. In Maadoran there is already a dedicated loremaster and you cant really get rid of him, but you can debate with him on some stuff.

Originally posted by =CrimsoN=:
Can you also join House Crassus as a loremaster? Yeah I remember the possibility of joining House Aurelian when doing the Boatmen questline. Can you still join House Aurelian though if you go praetor?

Yeah I think you can join House Aurelian if you're a Daratan Praetor, I think you get the option to desert from HD when you first meet Gaelius, or maybe after you safe his life .
=CrimsoN= Apr 15, 2022 @ 11:26am 
Okay so basically if I wanted to have the most content towards the Houses as a loremaster then I should start as a praetor instead of the loremaster start? and go for a sort of praetor/loremaster hybrid build?

That will be interesting. Like I stated, I tried a sort of combat loremaster hybrid build when I made a loremaster who got in with the Boatmen. It would be interesting to do a praetor/loremaster. I guess I'll have to be decent at persuasion/etiquette. I've never really done a successful praetor build before lol
Rat Apr 16, 2022 @ 12:01pm 
assasins of stix yes yes :Rat_Laugh::truepatriot:
=CrimsoN= Apr 16, 2022 @ 1:50pm 
Originally posted by Rat Nebulaiser:
assasins of stix yes yes :Rat_Laugh::truepatriot:

Yeah my first loremaster went with the boatmen (assassins). I beat the game with that faction, but I didn't feel very "loremaster-y". Didn't encounter as many instances to use the lore skill as I would have liked.
Rat Apr 16, 2022 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by =CrimsoN=:
Originally posted by Rat Nebulaiser:
assasins of stix yes yes :Rat_Laugh::truepatriot:

Yeah my first loremaster went with the boatmen (assassins). I beat the game with that faction, but I didn't feel very "loremaster-y". Didn't encounter as many instances to use the lore skill as I would have liked.
sure. Asasins are good to be betrayed and join Gaellius Aurelian boss)
NOIRE- Apr 17, 2022 @ 9:37pm 
Yeah, the only way for an assassin to get a taste in a lore is to change side to HA. And it's very beneficial too because you can start from Darius Tomb quest (no other faction except for praetor can get this offer).

Originally posted by =CrimsoN=:
Okay so basically if I wanted to have the most content towards the Houses as a loremaster then I should start as a praetor instead of the loremaster start? and go for a sort of praetor/loremaster hybrid build?

That will be interesting. Like I stated, I tried a sort of combat loremaster hybrid build when I made a loremaster who got in with the Boatmen. It would be interesting to do a praetor/loremaster. I guess I'll have to be decent at persuasion/etiquette. I've never really done a successful praetor build before lol

First of all, you won't be able to get even half of the content within one single playthrough. Your choice in the first city can really change the outcome later on. But yes, going hybird is indeed the quickest way, but harder. The more content you want to get, the harder it is. The game itself is short, so it's wiser to have more but less intense game.

Now, to get all, if not, most of the content of the Houses, you need to play both as a praetor and an imperial guard. There will be betrayal in every city so prepare to make some hard saves. In the case for praetor, luckily you can either talk your way out or brute force the mission, thus saving you the time and the pain trying to succeed using hybird build. But unfortunately not the case for imperial guard.

Other faction will give you a different perspective on the current conflict on the House, no more no less.
NOIRE- Apr 17, 2022 @ 9:38pm 
It's alot of trial and error process. Feel free to use a walkthrough if needed.
=CrimsoN= Apr 18, 2022 @ 4:21am 
Yeah I don't know if I stated in the OP, but I've already beaten AOD before. I even played a loremaster before and went with the assassins. Before that, I did a combat build and went with the Imperial Guards and a thief build before that with the Thieves Guild. Only route I haven't done is with the Commercium.

It's just that when I played a loremaster and went with the boatmen, I didn't feel very "loremaster-y". But it sounds like a praetor/loremaster hybrid route is the way to go if I want enough opportunities to actually use the lore skill. I've never joined with House Aurelian before, so this will be interesting.
Docangle May 16, 2022 @ 6:43pm 
You can become a House Aurelian praetor with a loremaster start
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