Is DLC2 possible with the Wing Diver Offline?

[Hibuki]

I'm currently trying to beat DLC2 with my Wing Diver on Hard difficulty (Armour 1450). Each mission seems impossibly difficult and if I beat it, it's because I barely scraped by.

Right now I'm stuck on the first mission with the tower of Bee Hives (Mission 5 or 6) and am getting wrecked regardless of weapon combinations that I try...

I understand it's supposed to be hard, but this level of difficulty seems more appropriate for Hardest or Inferno Difficulty... If the rest of this mission pack is worse than this, then I will need to farm more Armour...

[Hibuki]

Vℓα∂y lähetti viestin:

Here a really short video of known JP player beating that stage with 150 diver on inferno. If you don't want to watch video I can tell this strategy can work with any class on that stage. The game spawns you with NPC, you can take them to any dense part of a city surrounded by good cover. Leave them there, if you have trouble getting them into doorways, spam oooooooh command that you should have on quick chat menu. NPC will stay still and they'll be easy to push. Next step is to find some corner of map that far away enough while still spamming oooooh entire time so npc don't move, next step safetly just sniper all bees with anything that's not a launcher. Edit to add context, you gotta make sure you kill NPC rangers with rocket launcher as they can ruin this strategy quickly.

When Blue Death Queen spawns, make sure to focus on that immediately as that enemy can destroy buildings with its giant spikes depending if your sniper has fast enough dps to kill little ones first before big one.

I'll be honest this level reminds me a lot of first dlc level in EDF4.1, there's very similar strategy there you can do by using buildings and cover to make it way easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31W7hXqbaP0&t=258s&ab_channel=%E3%82%8A%E3%83%BC%E3%81%B5%E3%81%83%E3%81%82%E3%82%8C%E3%82%82%E3%82%93

For Fencer, you can take any shield, use side convertable thruster to turn everything into dash, use light mortar with tower shield, and you can handle any group of bees directly head on. Light mortar is very great for bee with shield while dashing your pretty mobile and light mortar is also good tool for dash cancel as you can fire anytime during any part of the dash.

Not too sure if Wing Diver can take on that bee of groups directly without high armor. On that level even on hard mode they almost seem like a inferno tier on terms of speed and deadliness. Most of her cores are nerfed except sky high core being only one that lets her move her around like an EDF5 diver.

I've tried the levels after that one too personally. I think one where you spawn on top of tower is legit hard. After that most of dlc2 levels seem pretty simple to me except for the all of cave mission ones and the uhh final level.

I've watched his other videos too, I personally think wing diver is not that bad at dlc2 just maybe a less engaging and more boring playstyle, she ends up with some really strong long range weapons while having mobility on higher difficulties that are spammable and you can fly from building to building picking anything off with ease. You gotta make sure to abuse emergency cooldowns and try using shields to block some of more annoying projectile spammers enemies like blue androids. On hard mode I would say shields is not really needed. On hardest and they get much better because you can throw out multiple shields.
Lightning weapons are handy too for being able to ignore kruul and kraken shields.

Ok, I watched the video but... That doesn't seem like the intentional way to play the game...

Seeing this makes me think the following - "Ok, so this level definitely unfair and not meant to be played solo. That's why a solo diver needs to abuse the mechanics by personally shoving NPCs in a doorway and getting them stuck (and then manually spamming Oooooh to keep them there)" - that doesn't seem fun at all...

I'll just level up my armour and try again later. If it doesn't work, I'll just skip completion of this level on anything harder than Normal difficulty. I tried the next level (it's the one where you spawn on top of the building) and it felt simple... Until it starting raining teleporter towers that spawned an army of bees again and I was forced to stay in that cramped space...

Thanks for the input though - it's definitely helpful.

[King Fossil]

Hibuki lähetti viestin:

Ok, I watched the video but... That doesn't seem like the intentional way to play the game...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mACeWXhB08Q
How about that one then?

[Vℓα∂y]

I can agree using dialogue commands to make NPC to stand still is very stupid. Players since 4.1 days have been asking devs to have commands to make any npc who follow you wait/follow but they never coded this in, so this is just how some of expert player use NPC for 3 games now. It is uncomfortable because it's not normal logic to average player to spam commands but anyway I don't blame you for not wanting to play it like this or not personally I didn't beat this level this way. You do you, thank you for reading and I hope you at least gain some insight out of it.

Usually NPC have purposes in many missions across game which can 180 the difficulty in a lot of missions, they aren't just random chess pieces its your choice or not to use them. I personally like that sometimes, it makes it feel group effort and your the strategist and not just one guy magically killing massive armies alone doing everything as much as story dialogue likes to praise storm 1 as killing machines.

[Hibuki]

King Fossil lähetti viestin:

Hibuki lähetti viestin:

Ok, I watched the video but... That doesn't seem like the intentional way to play the game...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mACeWXhB08Q
How about that one then?

This diver obviously has some OP Inferno level gear that I have not seen before.

I'll double check but I don't think that among the Plasma Cores I have now, I have one that can sustain such powerful weapons. That said, I don't think I have weapons that are powerful enough to One-Shot Blue Bees either - I mostly have Hard tier gear and expect to be able to use that gear to beat Hard tier levels.

In any case, thanks for the input - this is a viable strategy indeed. I'll review my gear to see if I can get a similar loadout with what I currently have. That Alpha special weapon thing seems exceedingly good for protection against the bees so I'll check if I have a similar one in my gear.

[King Fossil]

Hibuki lähetti viestin:

This diver obviously has some OP Inferno level gear that I have not seen before.

I'll double check but I don't think that among the Plasma Cores I have now, I have one that can sustain such powerful weapons. That said, I don't think I have weapons that are powerful enough to One-Shot Blue Bees either - I mostly have Hard tier gear and expect to be able to use that gear to beat Hard tier levels.

Plasma great is level 55.
lmao plasma great
You miiiiight want to go plasma heavy since you can't use big bang core yet though. Even though the velocity sucks. Not sure if it'll work well or not.

Oh yeah, for clarity, he's using magblaster DX, plasma great, gleipnir alpha, big bang core. You'll have to use lower level versions of everything but the plasma, but that's doable.

[Hibuki]

King Fossil lähetti viestin:

Hibuki lähetti viestin:

This diver obviously has some OP Inferno level gear that I have not seen before.

I'll double check but I don't think that among the Plasma Cores I have now, I have one that can sustain such powerful weapons. That said, I don't think I have weapons that are powerful enough to One-Shot Blue Bees either - I mostly have Hard tier gear and expect to be able to use that gear to beat Hard tier levels.

Plasma great is level 55.
lmao plasma great
You miiiiight want to go plasma heavy since you can't use big bang core yet though. Even though the velocity sucks. Not sure if it'll work well or not.

Oh yeah, for clarity, he's using magblaster DX, plasma great, gleipnir alpha, big bang core. You'll have to use lower level versions of everything but the plasma, but that's doable.

Ok, turns out I had the Mag Blaster DX and the Gleipnir Alpha (Probably from Mission 1 on DLC1) - these 2 are OP. I also had the Plasma Great but that one uses way too much Energy. I used one which was cheaper (1650 Damage per shot) and it took a bit longer to takeout the hives out but was fine.

I applied the strategy from the video and beat the mission easiliy (on Hard difficulty). I never realized that re-loading Mag Blasters mid-way does not consume the full reload charge and instead consumes just as much as needed to reload it... I always just ignored them because they seemed too expensive to use AND it always said "loses power to 1/8, the lower the capacity gets" or something like that...

Mag Blaster DX will now replace the Thunder Crossbow as my main weapon - it is OP xD
Gleipnir Alpha was also a lifesaver with those interruptions on the wasps.

[Euer_Endgegner]

Thats why i told you to try out your weapons. There a many little secrets about the weapons to find out.
Almost every Weapon got Missions she is good at and missions where she is useless.
Just about the different Ranger assault rifles we could talk for days.

[EAST]

One of the most critical key pieces of equipment for this mission is the **55 Plasma Great Cannon**, which boasts tremendous destructive power. It is very useful as it allows you to eliminate hives and idle enemies simultaneously.

This weapon is also used in *Inferno*

According to the drop table for hard difficulty in DLC2, this level 55 equipment can be acquired. Complete all missions or proceed with the main story(M77~) on hardest difficulty to obtain this weapon.

It’s uncertain whether it will perform as well on hard difficulty, but try the mission strategy with this key Great Cannon. It should be feasible.

### **Step 1: Secure a Safe Zone**
- **Recommended spot**: The space between the tallest buildings.
- Especially the areas nestled deep between buildings, as these locations are mostly free from enemy attacks and ideal for recovering energy.
- In this safe zone, eliminate approaching bees. Once the bees are cleared, fire the Great Cannon at the hives, leaving about eight intact.
- If there are seven hives left, blue bees will begin to appear, drastically increasing the difficulty. At this stage, destroy as many hives as possible at once while managing the approaching bees.

### **Step 2: Overcoming the Blue Bee Queen**
- The blue bee queen is the biggest hurdle in this mission.
- You cannot rely on buildings as shields during this phase. Exit the area between the buildings and wait patiently until the queen is isolated from the other bees.
- Once the queen is in a standby state and separated from the swarm, strike her with the Great Cannon and take her down as quickly as possible.

### **Step 3: Finish the Mission**
- After defeating the queen, return to the space between the buildings and eliminate the remaining hives and bees to complete the mission.

[Hibuki]

EAST lähetti viestin:

One of the most critical key pieces of equipment for this mission is the **55 Plasma Great Cannon**, which boasts tremendous destructive power. It is very useful as it allows you to eliminate hives and idle enemies simultaneously.

This weapon is also used in *Inferno*

According to the drop table for hard difficulty in DLC2, this level 55 equipment can be acquired. Complete all missions or proceed with the main story(M77~) on hardest difficulty to obtain this weapon.

It’s uncertain whether it will perform as well on hard difficulty, but try the mission strategy with this key Great Cannon. It should be feasible.

### **Step 1: Secure a Safe Zone**
- **Recommended spot**: The space between the tallest buildings.
- Especially the areas nestled deep between buildings, as these locations are mostly free from enemy attacks and ideal for recovering energy.
- In this safe zone, eliminate approaching bees. Once the bees are cleared, fire the Great Cannon at the hives, leaving about eight intact.
- If there are seven hives left, blue bees will begin to appear, drastically increasing the difficulty. At this stage, destroy as many hives as possible at once while managing the approaching bees.

### **Step 2: Overcoming the Blue Bee Queen**
- The blue bee queen is the biggest hurdle in this mission.
- You cannot rely on buildings as shields during this phase. Exit the area between the buildings and wait patiently until the queen is isolated from the other bees.
- Once the queen is in a standby state and separated from the swarm, strike her with the Great Cannon and take her down as quickly as possible.

### **Step 3: Finish the Mission**
- After defeating the queen, return to the space between the buildings and eliminate the remaining hives and bees to complete the mission.

Thanks, I already beat the mission on Hard (which was my goal) with a weaker cannon but with the Mag Blaster DX and the Gleipnir Alpha.

[Preacher JLU]

Hibuki lähetti viestin:

I'm currently trying to beat DLC2 with my Wing Diver on Hard difficulty (Armour 1450). Each mission seems impossibly difficult and if I beat it, it's because I barely scraped by.

Right now I'm stuck on the first mission with the tower of Bee Hives (Mission 5 or 6) and am getting wrecked regardless of weapon combinations that I try...

I understand it's supposed to be hard, but this level of difficulty seems more appropriate for Hardest or Inferno Difficulty... If the rest of this mission pack is worse than this, then I will need to farm more Armour...

Start farming armor and I mean a whole lot of armor, like thousands or 10's of thousands. Play DLC2 on easy until you get to mission 7 then farm the hell our of it on easy, this is by far the best armor farming mission in the game.

God bless

[Euer_Endgegner]

But Dlc2 missíon 7 works only good if you play with a team. Wing Diver alone is hell in that mission to collect items and fight.

[Preacher JLU]

Euer_Endgegner lähetti viestin:

But Dlc2 missíon 7 works only good if you play with a team. Wing Diver alone is hell in that mission to collect items and fight.

Wind Diver is my goto class for dlc2 mission 7 on easy. I use the Mirage 15WR for most of the bug killing. I also use the Mag Blaster ZM to knock out the bosses and to destroy some of the nests until I get the red bees coming out then that is when I start farming. The red bees seem to drop the most crates in the game.

I move to the left side of the building with all the nests on it and stand just far enough away where I can just hit the bees but not the nests. All you have to do is spam the 15WR and there you have it, the 15WR will kill most the bees if you position yourself correctly. You can farm a whole lot of armor doing this. My wing diver right now is sitting at 3263 armor.

What is nice about this is that even though you are not farming with other classes they will still get some armor, not much but they will go up along with the wing divers. You can do this with all classes, you just need to use the right weapons for the job, this can be done by trial and error until you find the best combination.

I do use Lootmaster so the armor goes up a bit faster and I don't have to run around collecting crates constantly. I usually don't use any mods in games but when you need thousands of armor and don't want to grind for 10,000 hours then this is an absolute must have.

Link to Lootmaster at nexus mods:
https://www.nexusmods.com/earthdefenseforce6/mods/1

Hope this helps.

God bless

[Euer_Endgegner]

Preacher JLU lähetti viestin:

Euer_Endgegner lähetti viestin:

But Dlc2 missíon 7 works only good if you play with a team. Wing Diver alone is hell in that mission to collect items and fight.

Wind Diver is my goto class for dlc2 mission 7 on easy. I use the Mirage 15WR for most of the bug killing. I also use the Mag Blaster ZM to knock out the bosses and to destroy some of the nests until I get the red bees coming out then that is when I start farming. The red bees seem to drop the most crates in the game.

I move to the left side of the building with all the nests on it and stand just far enough away where I can just hit the bees but not the nests. All you have to do is spam the 15WR and there you have it, the 15WR will kill most the bees if you position yourself correctly. You can farm a whole lot of armor doing this. My wing diver right now is sitting at 3263 armor.

What is nice about this is that even though you are not farming with other classes they will still get some armor, not much but they will go up along with the wing divers. You can do this with all classes, you just need to use the right weapons for the job, this can be done by trial and error until you find the best combination.

I do use Lootmaster so the armor goes up a bit faster and I don't have to run around collecting crates constantly. I usually don't use any mods in games but when you need thousands of armor and don't want to grind for 10,000 hours then this is an absolute must have.

Link to Lootmaster at nexus mods:
https://www.nexusmods.com/earthdefenseforce6/mods/1

Hope this helps.

God bless

I cant help with mods because i played on ps5. But if you found a way that works for you : have fun.

[Bushman]

Isn't the online armor limit is 1800 way to low to even be possible for dlc2 mission 7?

[Radical Rat]

In general, consider the DLC missions as being a difficulty higher than the base game scaling, maybe even a difficulty and a half for DLC2.

To be ready for the DLC on Hard, you should play the base game on Hardest to gather Armor/Weapons and to improve your skills.

It definitely will not be easy still at that point, but it'll put you closer to where the game expects you to be in terms of experience and firepower, and you shouldn't need to go out of your way to grind beyond that.

Alternatively, if you just want to get the story and don't feel like replaying the whole game again, there is no shame in dropping the difficulty down to Normal to line up with having played the base game on Hard.