DLC 1 Mission 9 Airborne invaders Air Raider Inferno Kit

[Dark Strider]

I am a bit uneasy. My buddies and I just swept through the main game on Hardest (chasing that 70%) and we decided to jump to the DLC. So, I ran a few trial missions on offline inferno to see what worked. Some missions were a breeze, some I failed just due to action economy (fixed via co-op); then I hit this thing. This mission is shaping up to have no solution for me. I can't Grape Kite because of the map (more on the jackass that soaks my grape in Vaseline and bacon grease) and the machine gun wasps don't care how fast you're going. I tried wiping out huge swaths of them via bombing runs with mixed results; all ending in my death. I tried Shields, those are broken too quickly and I think blue wasp projectiles can hit multiple shields at once if their stacked too close (making it impossible to properly clip them into buildings to minimize their contact surface). Shields also bring the "your whole screen is needles now" problem, limiting any offensive measures that don't rely on AI aim to "crap shoot" level. The wasps are piss poor for point gain, so I can't rely on Sat Strikes as I'll only get one before the end of the mission; even strafing runs are out of the question (though to a much lesser extent).

I am truly lost on what I'm supposed to bring. Both of my friends will either be bringing Wing Diver or one will bring blitz Fencer. So, they can survive by "everything proof shield" spam or the fencer will die a horrible death huddled beside me as I pray for the shield to hold out for three more kills so I can call a strafing run that will solve...nothing; while my other friend activates tank mode and can no longer shoot back. Anyone have a build in mind for this mission. It's becoming a real wasp in my helmet.

Things I've tried:
Shield by the bank/store back right from where you start (best results as far as Survival time)
Hiding in an attached garden garage in the charcoal colored houses
Tempest and Mortars
Several other buildings with shields (parkour included)
Sat Strikes/Bulge Lasers
Limpet Snipers, Splendors and Detectors
Phobos Z4, Strafing runs, Napalm (more personal vendetta than actual attempt)
Vehicles (see points issue).
Vulcan and auto cannons.

[Plumber]

i don't see any Lionic in that list; that's probably what you're missing.
I used Neutralize / Vulcan / Lionic for this one. Support slot should be Power Post or Bunker depending on the weapons your teammates are bringing.

In general, you should either bring weapons that fire consistently enough to stunlock individual bees until they die or have enough damage that what they hit will die. The former is more desirable after pulling, the latter is more desirable before pulling, and the best options give you both. Lionic is both at once and just limited by its hefty cooldown that doesn't actually matter because this is a passive-enemy map. If you keep most of them under control and always move perpendicular to whatever bees are left, you should get through with good execution.

It's important to catch at least some of the bees coming from behind you - one small wave at the start, one big wave after most have been defeated - so they don't bunch up together in a huge blob later. That's where Lionic comes in. Very high range, good enough damage, lightning fast turning so there's no chance you can miss, plus low risk of blowing yourself up vs. bees because lasers aimed into the sky are aiming at nothing and therefore not influencing the missile guidance.

Your WD teammate(s) could bring Gleipnir, which is very dangerous to misuse on this map but also practically plays it for you if used correctly, since it can lock down multiple bees at once. Just don't deploy it too far ahead. The DLC Mag Blaster is extremely strong in general, but especially for this mission. Bolt Shooter is also appealing but is risky to use near the ground since all it takes is one stray lightning bounce to alert the map...

Fencer can use Perfect Reflector while dashing around to buy an opening, then clean up stragglers with Galleon.

[Dark Strider]

Originally posted by Plumber:

i don't see any Lionic in that list; that's probably what you're missing.
I used Neutralize / Vulcan / Lionic for this one. Support slot should be Power Post or Bunker depending on the weapons your teammates are bringing.

In general, you should either bring weapons that fire consistently enough to stunlock individual bees until they die or have enough damage that what they hit will die. The former is more desirable after pulling, the latter is more desirable before pulling, and the best options give you both. Lionic is both at once and just limited by its hefty cooldown that doesn't actually matter because this is a passive-enemy map. If you keep most of them under control and always move perpendicular to whatever bees are left, you should get through with good execution.

It's important to catch at least some of the bees coming from behind you - one small wave at the start, one big wave after most have been defeated - so they don't bunch up together in a huge blob later. That's where Lionic comes in. Very high range, good enough damage, lightning fast turning so there's no chance you can miss, plus low risk of blowing yourself up vs. bees because lasers aimed into the sky are aiming at nothing and therefore not influencing the missile guidance.

Your WD teammate(s) could bring Gleipnir, which is very dangerous to misuse on this map but also practically plays it for you if used correctly, since it can lock down multiple bees at once. Just don't deploy it too far ahead. The DLC Mag Blaster is extremely strong in general, but especially for this mission. Bolt Shooter is also appealing but is risky to use near the ground since all it takes is one stray lightning bounce to alert the map...

Fencer can use Perfect Reflector while dashing around to buy an opening, then clean up stragglers with Galleon.

The reason Lionic is missing is because I'm terrified of using heavy ordnance as point defense. One stray shot and BOOM, the building you were cowering under is now in ruins, as is your defense strategy and...your life total. I will run it and see what happens; I have a few decent ones kicking around. As for my team mates, they will not take any suggestions, hence why I need to be at the top of my S game; I patch the holes. Thank you for your time.

[EAST]

online play, the Air radar has done its job once you make the Shield. The rest is up to the others. Spritefall shooting mode b3 or 120mm cut hp on enemies.

The key to this mission is to build a shield and bring the enemy in wait little by little. If too many enemies come and the shield breaks before removing the enemy, it's a failure of pooling. Tell the pooled person to do better.

If it's harder than you think, tell the wing diver to take the bigcore+mirage15wr and shoot it in the shield. Even if there are quite a lot of enemies and vision is obscured, the wing diver will tie up a bunch of enemies for a long time.

[Epicwindow+-]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmjA6LpWPKo&feature=youtu.be

welcome to edf 4.1 experience where we hide under roofs and pray the tadpoles dont get us

[Plumber]

Originally posted by Dark Strider:

The reason Lionic is missing is because I'm terrified of using heavy ordnance as point defense. One stray shot and BOOM, the building you were cowering under is now in ruins, as is your defense strategy and...your life total. I will run it and see what happens; I have a few decent ones kicking around. As for my team mates, they will not take any suggestions, hence why I need to be at the top of my S game; I patch the holes. Thank you for your time.

Lionic isn’t going to hit you unless you’re extremely unlucky when a bee dies and a missile swerving just happens to be pointed at you without anything left to guide it at. This does not happen to me with nearly enough frequency to give up how strong it is for anti-air. If you’re huddling in a building while using it, then yes you’ll have problems, gotta stay on the move outside.

If you’re missing the highest-end Lionic, then that’s something you should try grabbing. They scale pretty sharply with ranks like most AR gear…

If your friends won’t take any suggestions, you’ll be lucky to make it through Hardest, let alone Inferno, in the later DLC1 missions. 14/17/18 are all harder by an order of magnitude when played casually and will make A Bunch Of Blue Bees look like a cakewalk. It might not be a bad idea to drop it down to Hardest first, especially if your armor is low.

[Epicwindow+-]

ok dlc 1-15 is more cancer

i didnt expect to play sniper elite in my edf6

[Plumber]

dlc1-15 isn't that bad, it's almost all normal and blue ants so it's fairly simple if the aranea aren't rushed. It's one of the missions I see people farming in, even

[LArc7thHeaven]

If people already said dlc 1 is hard, wait until you play dlc 2 lmaooo, it's pure cancer and hair pulling experience

[Epicwindow+-]

its more like cancer and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ mission design than hard really

unlike 1-14 where its happy fun TDM (air raider mecha spam makes it easy)

1-15 on inferno its just basically asking for DPS check and memorizing the enemy spawn

in general the design of blue ant is just cancer

aimbot+a bit tanky+high damage+long range
(i only have 1400 armor bruh)

[Air Raider]

Originally posted by Epicwindow+-:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmjA6LpWPKo&feature=youtu.be

welcome to edf 4.1 experience where we hide under roofs and pray the tadpoles dont get us

opens mission
dragon music starts playing
radar shows 100 enemies above

[cowbell]

If you are patient, you can always wait until DLC 2 comes out and use those weapons. I have 6000 armor and don't feel like 100% things so soon.