crossbow man and balistas need a rework

[Candarian]

they need to aim
random shots and shooting north are annoying

balistas dont do damage and dont aim is the most useless unit in the game
a tree is flying - 2 damage - next tree is flying - 1 damage
that thing do less damage than the crossbow
that thing need more damage and aiming(just lower the reload if needed but as it is right now its useless

the crossbowmen isnt that bad from looking at his dps but shooting left when all enemies are on the right side is so annoying
i would prefer lower damage but aiming more even if the dps goes down
the ability do give mages(or other units) shields is the best on this unit anyway

[The D, JigDom]

Balistas are for Knock Back!!! To buy time and cost/dmg is ok...

Catapult and Trebuchet are to expensive for what they do... Low Dmg (maybe 0,2sec stun) and way to long reload! And u can´t see the Stats!!

Crossbow is ok, give him lvl 2 with then 3 arrows and the +1 additional hit relic and he can Hit 4 up to 6 Enemys at same time (better then shamane/shooter/Hobbit) in Dmg/sec and it cost only Wood
Who cares Random you need to Kill all Enemys anyway so it doesn´t matter, if the Enemies are so close to ur Crossbow man that it would matters, then u have already to low Dmg in Army and have to die in next 2 days...
Particularly if u are above Curse 2 like me

I finished Curse 3 tonight with 127 Glory and its hard... I found out by calculating 135 is max Glory there so u need to finish Curse 4 Perfect with 2-3 "Monster at Night Events" for getting hopefully 150+ Glory for next Path/Street in Kingdom

[Lord Kazzak]

Im with you, lower the damage and let him aim at ememys. Im cool with aiming at random enemys but at least aim... also they could give him spread in later stages when he has multiple arrows he spread them in the direction of the aimed enemy. At least for now i don't take him, as long as he don't aim he stays at that cliff.

[Jaster]

thats your fault tho, he is kinda op

[Candarian]

Originally posted by Jaster:

thats your fault tho, he is kinda op

he is good yes(mainly because he give shields and make mages op but he is not op himself)
but looking at him shooting not at enemies 9 out of 10 times is so frustrating to look at
and if it counts he miss allways

from the damage done in one round he sure is in the top spots all the time

balistas on the other hand allways last and second last = useless

[Jaster]

he is good yes(mainly because he give shields and make mages op but he is not op himself)
but looking at him shooting not at enemies 9 out of 10 times is so frustrating to look at
and if it counts he miss allways

from the damage done in one round he sure is in the top spots all the time

balistas on the other hand allways last and second last = useless [/quote]

im not talking about the balistas, they are kinda garbage, but the crossbow is op ( I was laughing at this useless unit at the beginning too, but he is kinda the strongest unit in game

[dontnormally]

Originally posted by Candarian:

the ability do give mages(or other units) shields is the best on this unit anyway

oh! i never thought about this. there are so many things that only effect shielded units.

[uni790]

The crossbowman is easily one of the best units day 10-14, so many reds that every time he shoots he kills 3-6 of them, the siege weapons though yea, entirely useless, just ignore them.

[Poena]

Originally posted by Candarian:

they need to aim
random shots and shooting north are annoying

the crossbowmen isnt that bad from looking at his dps but shooting left when all enemies are on the right side is so annoying
i would prefer lower damage but aiming more even if the dps goes down
the ability do give mages(or other units) shields is the best on this unit anyway

Upgrade him for wood (best aviable resource in the game) and see him rule the
battlefield while rising in level.

Just finished a curse 2 run. Lev. 5 X-bow did 62,2% of all damage followed by lev 5 Runescript who did 16,3% (thanks to boni vs. wet targets)..

[Candarian]

he randomly kills a lot of enemies
i know that
but he also allways fail when it counts
he shoot a the moon for no reason while having a monster 1 m away from him

[dontnormally]

i agree that the crossbowman would be healthier for the game if nerfed and got aiming

right now crossbowman is an absolute requirement due to being the highest dps

that alone makes it not great, since it isn't even a choice - you have to get it

[uni790]

Originally posted by dontnormally:

i agree that the crossbowman would be healthier for the game if nerfed and got aiming

right now crossbowman is an absolute requirement due to being the highest dps

that alone makes it not great, since it isn't even a choice - you have to get it

You'd grab him regardless, as he's essentially free, and a day 1 purchase, same with the fighter, there's no reason not to have both of them in every run.

[dontnormally]

i never get fighter because i always get a 2nd hero unit instead

[Candarian]

fighter is just a waste of food starting day 3 or so
u dont want close combat in this game at all

[uni790]

Originally posted by Candarian:

fighter is just a waste of food starting day 3 or so
u dont want close combat in this game at all

Maybe, but close combat will happen, and his sword hits harder then any hired unit will (I saw mine nail that spider boss for a hit of 200ish damage earlier(unsure if it was a crit or not))

Originally posted by dontnormally:

i never get fighter because i always get a 2nd hero unit instead

Personally I've not reached the point where I can start with the two gold bars yet, so that's not an option from where I'm sitting, and by the time you can afford the portal, it's too late to bother with another hire, they'll be far too weak to be useful.

[dontnormally]

Originally posted by uni790:

Originally posted by Candarian:

fighter is just a waste of food starting day 3 or so
u dont want close combat in this game at all

Maybe, but close combat will happen, and his sword hits harder then any hired unit will (I saw mine nail that spider boss for a hit of 200ish damage earlier(unsure if it was a crit or not))

Originally posted by dontnormally:

i never get fighter because i always get a 2nd hero unit instead

Personally I've not reached the point where I can start with the two gold bars yet, so that's not an option from where I'm sitting, and by the time you can afford the portal, it's too late to bother with another hire, they'll be far too weak to be useful.

it took a bit to get to the point where i could afford the 2nd hero, but i can do it by:
- starting with 2 workers (via the world upgrade)
- starting with 4 wood (via resource caches)
- starting with 4 stone (via resource caches)
- starting with 2 gold nuggets (via resource caches)
- starting with 3 food (2 via the orbs, 1 from fish)
- starting with 2 wheat (via resource caches, but not important - i wish i could destroy them and get gold nuggets instead :( )

after starting the game, if there isn't a great location for woodcutter and goldmine (very close to resources), i restart

after starting the game, i immediately pause, upgrade storage at the castle, build a tavern, build a woodcutter, build a house, put all workers on wood, get the +5 wood

i focus wood until i have 5 workers

i get just enough stone to upgrade storage again

i'll get the crossbowman

i get sawmill, get exactly 2 planks

i build gold mine, focus on that and stone

i get smelter, then put all workers on gold (and as much food as necessary)

this makes it barely possible to upgrade the starting hero once and afford to buy a 2nd hero

i'll then focus on upgrading the crossbowman

i'll then focus on getting walls

i'll then focus on getting the tower

i'll then focus on getting the priest

all the food is gone by now

i'll then focus on getting beer

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this seems ideal, but it still just flat out doesn't work sometimes. i don't know what else could possibly be better.