Ritual stones not possible sometimes?

[Cabbage]

I'm quite new to playing this so I may be just missing something, but it seems as though ritual stones are impossible to complete sometimes. For example: I just had two stones on the same level that required titan triggerfish and only had 3 spaces for the relevant corals/plants. Seems like the minimum number of spaces needed for those big guys is 5. I hope that's not an intended game state because it really soured the run for me.

[Margoaw]

Hello and thank you for your feedback!

Upgrading your plants and corals can also help with the lack of planting slots. For example, if the ritual stone requires 2 Sea Anemones, you can cultivate on one space one Sea Anemone and upgrade it to level 2 and it will consider that you have therefore 2 Sea Anemones instead of one.
Did you try upgrading your plant slots and does it let you complete the ritual stone then or not? If it is still not possible to complete the ritual stone despite the upgrades, then we will work on fixing this, thank you

[Erdbeerhimmel]

This is happening for me as well. This run (3rd) I had this several times.

I can already upgrade my plants to level 3, which is quite helpful, BUT my current ritual stone asks for an angler fish, which needs a lantern fish and a grenadier, the lantern fish needs gorgonian fan and mushroom coral, the grenadier needs 2 scalyfoot snails, which need tube worm colony and chimney sponge, all of these four have the same planting spot, now I only have 3 planting spots for those plants, so it is impossible to complete.

The second ritual stone on the same level asks for a beaked whale, which needs a grenadier and a lantern fish which like explained above is already not possible. So both ritual stones are not completable.

And this is not the first time.

[Margoaw]

Originally posted by Erdbeerhimmel:

This is happening for me as well. This run (3rd) I had this several times.

I can already upgrade my plants to level 3, which is quite helpful, BUT my current ritual stone asks for an angler fish, which needs a lantern fish and a grenadier, the lantern fish needs gorgonian fan and mushroom coral, the grenadier needs 2 scalyfoot snails, which need tube worm colony and chimney sponge, all of these four have the same planting spot, now I only have 3 planting spots for those plants, so it is impossible to complete.

The second ritual stone on the same level asks for a beaked whale, which needs a grenadier and a lantern fish which like explained above is already not possible. So both ritual stones are not completable.

Thank you for your feedback on this! We will work on fixing this issue as soon as possible

[Jibii]

Yea. I am sitting with the same problem right now.

[seggo]

I had this happen to me in one level as well. No matter how i tried to do it, it didn't work (even not with help of lvl 3 gardening or doubling fishes with fulfilling the criterias). I ALT+F4 the game and played the level again :-)

[LaChouette]

Originally posted by Erdbeerhimmel:

This is happening for me as well. This run (3rd) I had this several times.

I can already upgrade my plants to level 3, which is quite helpful, BUT my current ritual stone asks for an angler fish, which needs a lantern fish and a grenadier, the lantern fish needs gorgonian fan and mushroom coral, the grenadier needs 2 scalyfoot snails, which need tube worm colony and chimney sponge, all of these four have the same planting spot, now I only have 3 planting spots for those plants, so it is impossible to complete.

The second ritual stone on the same level asks for a beaked whale, which needs a grenadier and a lantern fish which like explained above is already not possible. So both ritual stones are not completable.

And this is not the first time.

You can technically do these. Plant the colony and sponge, upgrade them to get your snails. Plant fan or coral on the third slot. Remove the colony or the sponge, and immediately plant the missing plant out of fan and coral. Should make the lantern fish spawn before the snails actually get extinct (since that process takes a bit of time), which would make the angler fish spawn as well.

It's definitely not the intended way to do things, and such stones probably shouldn't exist, but so far I've always been able to do them, although with weird tricks such as the one above.

[MaxiTB]

Originally posted by Margoaw:

Hello and thank you for your feedback!

Upgrading your plants and corals can also help with the lack of planting slots. For example, if the ritual stone requires 2 Sea Anemones, you can cultivate on one space one Sea Anemone and upgrade it to level 2 and it will consider that you have therefore 2 Sea Anemones instead of one.
Did you try upgrading your plant slots and does it let you complete the ritual stone then or not? If it is still not possible to complete the ritual stone despite the upgrades, then we will work on fixing this, thank you

Hi, unrelated info:

It happens to me sometimes due to some conditions of fish using up so many available limited build slots (prerequirement) that you can't fulfill a secondary condition on the same stone. I think it was I needed four slots (even with the 3rd tier upgrade), but in the level there were only 3 slots for this plant type.

Another time it was enough, but due to a predator eating the required species it only reached 2/3. However there was no way of getting rid of the predator because he was a sub requirement for another requirement on the same stone.

There seem to be an issue where preconditions are not 100% covered by the level generation engine.

Sorry for being so vague, I just got the game and I can't remember any specifics.

[Margoaw]

Originally posted by MaxiTB:

Originally posted by Margoaw:

Hello and thank you for your feedback!

Upgrading your plants and corals can also help with the lack of planting slots. For example, if the ritual stone requires 2 Sea Anemones, you can cultivate on one space one Sea Anemone and upgrade it to level 2 and it will consider that you have therefore 2 Sea Anemones instead of one.
Did you try upgrading your plant slots and does it let you complete the ritual stone then or not? If it is still not possible to complete the ritual stone despite the upgrades, then we will work on fixing this, thank you

Hi, unrelated info:

It happens to me sometimes due to some conditions of fish using up so many available limited build slots (prerequirement) that you can't fulfill a secondary condition on the same stone. I think it was I needed four slots (even with the 3rd tier upgrade), but in the level there were only 3 slots for this plant type.

Another time it was enough, but due to a predator eating the required species it only reached 2/3. However there was no way of getting rid of the predator because he was a sub requirement for another requirement on the same stone.

There seem to be an issue where preconditions are not 100% covered by the level generation engine.

Sorry for being so vague, I just got the game and I can't remember any specifics.

Hello and thank you for your report! It is indeed an issue that we know of and don't worry about specifics, we understand what might be the problem here! We're taking note of it and will work on improving this system

[ChaosTheoryGames]

We've recently released an update (v1.1.61) that hopefully improves this by changing how Ritual Stone requirements are generated. Let us know if you continue to run into this issue, and we'll keep working on it!

In some levels, it won't be possible to complete EVERY Ritual Stone without having to clear some plants or corals, but all Ritual Stones should be possible to complete if you've explored the whole level.

[Cockney Balls]

Originally posted by ChaosTheoryGames:

We've recently released an update (v1.1.61) that hopefully improves this by changing how Ritual Stone requirements are generated. Let us know if you continue to run into this issue, and we'll keep working on it!

In some levels, it won't be possible to complete EVERY Ritual Stone without having to clear some plants or corals, but all Ritual Stones should be possible to complete if you've explored the whole level.

Nope, having the same issue on a run today. And it's the same exact thing: three spots in Simmering Seas and a ritual stone needing 4 slots. So unfortunately not fixed

And the above fix isn't working. The snails are running off in seconds, so I can't demolish and rebuild in time

[[LoR] Gooda]

I just ran into this problem, I need a Titan Triggerfish and a Giant Grouper. I have 10 planting spots for one type and only 4 for the second but to get 3 Urchin and 1 Butterfly fish you need 5 spots.

EDIT. Just to clarify I didn't have level 3 plants

[indian_horse2003]

I also had the same problem. The second level in I need a Titan Tigerfish but only have 4 spots for the appropriate plants needed. The first and only ritual stone to come up didn't have the option for the plant upgrade, so there's no way I can complete the only ritual stone on this level.

[indian_horse2003]

It just happened again! Need to have a Beaked Whale but only one bed with 3 spots for that collection of plants (minus the Magnispiral Coral wich has 4 spots available for that so it's good). Even with the ability to upgrade plants to level 3, you need at least one Chimney Sponge, Gorgonian Sea Fan, Tube Worm Colony, and Deep-sea Mushroom Coral.... I think I'm calling it quits for today. Normally I find the game calming and the cute crabs uplifting, but I'm just getting frustrated instead...

[Margoaw]

Hello and thank you for your precious feedback, we will continue to work on improving the planting slots in the upcoming updates

[DeviousSnail]

I just ended up with this issue today as well. Really sad since it was my first preservation stone and I can't even complete it no matter what I do