why

[Torgo]

Why are there around forty different versions of this game.. and they all have thousands of active players, and yet all of them have negative reviews saying it's the worst game they've ever played.
If this game sucks to bad, why do they keep making sequels, and why do people keep buying it over and over again and then leaving harsh reviews?
I'm so confused. Is this some kind of legendary masterpiece that gets review-bombed by people who don't appreciate it? Should I get this game or should I just read the book?

[babobaka]

Originally posted by Torgo:

Why are there around forty different versions of this game.. and they all have thousands of active players, and yet all of them have negative reviews saying it's the worst game they've ever played.
If this game sucks to bad, why do they keep making sequels, and why do people keep buying it over and over again and then leaving harsh reviews?
I'm so confused. Is this some kind of legendary masterpiece that gets review-bombed by people who don't appreciate it? Should I get this game or should I just read the book?

Definitely read the book.

This game is basically for the people that read the book. This is the game for the people that want to relive the experience of that book.

People constantly complain, but still play this game because this is practically a monopoly of three kingdom.

Think of NBA 2k series. People complain a lot, but they still come back to buy some more. 2K does some undesirable stuff, but fans have no other choice, so they keep coming back.

[Slaytherine]

Monopoly.

It's the only publisher making ROTK now, same with Nobunaga Ambitions.

[moka]

Unlike Fifa that is an update every year, every Rot3k episode is different from the previous one. So some players hope for a better version of their favorite episode. And then realize that it's a different game.

It's a game for those who loved the novel or the drama or the chinese era of the game.
We would eat anything that is about this novel/drama/era we love. And then complain. And then buy again because we're still hungry.

[Deimos Tel`Arin]

Originally posted by moka:

Unlike Fifa that is an update every year, every Rot3k episode is different from the previous one. So some players hope for a better version of their favorite episode. And then realize that it's a different game.

It's a game for those who loved the novel or the drama or the chinese era of the game.
We would eat anything that is about this novel/drama/era we love. And then complain. And then buy again because we're still hungry.

^^^ this

[Nox]

Originally posted by Torgo:

Why are there around forty different versions of this game.. and they all have thousands of active players, and yet all of them have negative reviews saying it's the worst game they've ever played.
If this game sucks to bad, why do they keep making sequels, and why do people keep buying it over and over again and then leaving harsh reviews?
I'm so confused. Is this some kind of legendary masterpiece that gets review-bombed by people who don't appreciate it? Should I get this game or should I just read the book?

I feel these games are really love or hate, and each version changes thing in certain ways gameplay wise, there are versions I love and versions I hate. Its really niche hoenstly.

[DatMaPhuka]

I have enjoyed every version of this game, including this one. We're still less than 48 hours in but most of the negative comments that I see are from people who haven't even purchased the game yet, so.....

[Vorpal Spoon]

Originally posted by BarnJuden:

I have enjoyed every version of this game, including this one. We're still less than 48 hours in but most of the negative comments that I see are from people who haven't even purchased the game yet, so.....

Well there are some who got it and then refunded it here. That's kinda a shame, considering it took me over two hours before I saw the gem it is. That's me being objective, not nostalgic.

[BloodyPork]

Originally posted by Slaytherine:

Monopoly.

It's the only publisher making ROTK now, same with Nobunaga Ambitions.

Exactly this.

There's barely any other games like this. And they are flawed as well.

Many fans continue to buy Koei's historical sim game even if they're not good in the hope that they will use the money in the future to make a decent one. And not all entries are bad. The latest Nobunaga Ambition game is decent. In fact the Nobunaga series has generally been okay for me, since Iron Triangle all the successors are mostly fine except that broken sengoku risshiden. As for rtk, I thought 14 was okay. Not as good as the ps2 games but it was acceptable. This however, is still crap at its current state, need some work, mostly AI fixing.

[Narrowmind]

The thing most agrivating about XIV was logistics to me. You realize right away how hard it is to attack the north from the southwest. Very hard to move things around the mountains and across the major rivers. In that, I would bet the game is extraordinarily accurate to reality.

[Teralitha]

Originally posted by BarnJuden:

I have enjoyed every version of this game, including this one. We're still less than 48 hours in but most of the negative comments that I see are from people who haven't even purchased the game yet, so.....

You cant leave a steam review if you havent bought the game.

[Vorpal Spoon]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

The thing most agrivating about XIV was logistics to me. You realize right away how hard it is to attack the north from the southwest. Very hard to move things around the mountains and across the major rivers. In that, I would bet the game is extraordinarily accurate to reality.

Logistics from Bashu into the central plains (troop morale and supplies) was also an issue in map based ROTK's.

[Jmac]

This game as the most single player rpg elements in it

So it is a basically a deeper, richer and more immersive title then the others

The game is hated and reviewed incorrectly because people can not get over the feelings they have about what the game should be vs what the game is

Whenever the difference of opinion happens its a game or design flaw, in reality its someone being a baby and not sticking to facts

Here are the facts, its a very well done game with a lot of options and the replay value is strong just in the ability to trigger a historical event or let it pass ( many other reasons exist but no play through will be alike with this feature)

The book is decent, its more impressive reading it at 15 then at 46, but it is a decent book.

If you read the book youll have to play the game

The one thing you hit on is the passion, this game series evokes a lot of passion because people like myself started playing 35 years ago and have played every iteration.

I think this is the best one they have made since the original 8, so you can imagine how bummed ive been with all the others since then.

[Narrowmind]

Originally posted by Jmac:

Whenever the difference of opinion happens its a game or design flaw, in reality its someone being a baby and not sticking to facts

Well, no, that actually has nothing to do with the game, but simply life for western humanity living day to day life. Besides that, what you call facts, a long time ago, was called an opinion.

Originally posted by Vorpal Spoon:

Logistics from Bashu into the central plains (troop morale and supplies) was also an issue in map based ROTK's.

Please give me an example. I can't think of one game where you couldn't automatically move supplies around pretty instantly and easily where it was a menu based map you're working with. Also, the limits of what a city can hold in XIV are ultra restricted. If the town is too small, the extra supplies are just thrown away. Without those supplies, you can't large very large expeditions to break out of your positions.

[XYZEXPIRED]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

The thing most agrivating about XIV was logistics to me. You realize right away how hard it is to attack the north from the southwest. Very hard to move things around the mountains and across the major rivers. In that, I would bet the game is extraordinarily accurate to reality.

You haven't found the work around if you think it is very hard. It only hard in the beginning where supply and logistic is the issue, but it is true in real life where battle will last for months with supply camp setting up from all side of the river like Chibi battle.
River battle was fun in XIV. The only thing I find a little unrealistic is I can march for a year without getting tired which I think they should have added that to the morale (fatique system). The again, nobody really battle the North that much unlike the Central Plain where there is battle every single month.

Aside from that, this game is above average, not best, not worst. With DLC or PUK, it may becoming a better one, plotting and diplomacy is very weak, not seeing any differences.
Some of us just like to buy the game as it does bring back old times playing. I would wish they would mix the Legend of game and Tactics into their battle and gameplay.

[BloodyPork]

Originally posted by Jmac:

This game as the most single player rpg elements in it

So it is a basically a deeper, richer and more immersive title then the others

The game is hated and reviewed incorrectly because people can not get over the feelings they have about what the game should be vs what the game is

Whenever the difference of opinion happens its a game or design flaw, in reality its someone being a baby and not sticking to facts

Here are the facts, its a very well done game with a lot of options and the replay value is strong just in the ability to trigger a historical event or let it pass ( many other reasons exist but no play through will be alike with this feature)

The book is decent, its more impressive reading it at 15 then at 46, but it is a decent book.

If you read the book youll have to play the game

The one thing you hit on is the passion, this game series evokes a lot of passion because people like myself started playing 35 years ago and have played every iteration.

I think this is the best one they have made since the original 8, so you can imagine how bummed ive been with all the others since then.

Everything you said is an opinion, not a fact. Being a baby is thinking that your opinion is a fact and disregard other's opinion because you can't handle other people criticizing the game you like.