Let's talk about crashes and penalties.

[Sylix]

Okay, just to start I'm not the most experienced player so advice is welcome. I love the game I can't get enough of it my only complaint is how many times the cars crash into each other or a wall, some of them don't even make sense.

Getting to the point of the this discussion, do you think crashes are fair? As I believe it is to frequent. Second point on penalties it feels like every time there is a crash it always evolving my driver and the fault is always mine is this the same in your game?

If not, please any advice for a new player.

[Roman Hunčovský]

I have a similar thing.
Ocon pushed my rider off the track and my rider got a 5s penalty.

[Sylix]

So it isn't just me. Maybe it is a balancing issue. But yeah the same thing happened to me. Not just that in one race the amount of crashes the racers seem to have seems a little to high like even on practices.

I get the odd lockup or spins but at one point on a actual race day I had like 4 cars go out on the first corner. Then just as race resume from the Safety Car. The exact same bend a crash causes a red flag. It's just crazy.

But as I said the game is incredibly fun, but the crashes just feel like a little too frequent to me. I can 100% at least grantee from Practice 1 all way to the actual race day there will be few more crashes before the day is out.

You think I should put something on bug report thread does this warrant it?

[Dead Already]

I think this is one of the things they highlighted recently that will be patched, with regards to penalties anyway.
Crashes do seem too frequent, you can guarantee multiple crashes in a race.

I had my driver hit from behind in the run to turn 1 and my driver got the penalty when it was definitely not his fault. Also had Ocon make a kamikazi dive up the inside of a corner, lock up, hit my driver, but my driver got the penalty!

[olivluis72]

I'm OK with the amount of little driver mistakes that cause them to lose time, and even with those small contacts amidst the pack that may lead to off-track excursions and some to damage to the cars.

What I think is too much is the number of big shunts and the rate of car destruction that's going on. That should - must - be toned down. Remember 2022 when Mick Schumacher had, what?, three big crashes and that was a big thing that even led to him being fired? Well, in the current version of the game three big crashes during the season is almost nothing, and Mick would be hailed as one of the most careful drivers in the pack. So, yes, this aspect must definitely be worked on, not to the point of making big car-destroying shunts a rarity but having them happen at a realistic rate (that shouldn't be hard, has anyone can gather the relevant data from the past seasons; it's just a matter of tuning the game to somewhere around that rate).

[jtm85]

Originally posted by Sylix:

Okay, just to start I'm not the most experienced player so advice is welcome. I love the game I can't get enough of it my only complaint is how many times the cars crash into each other or a wall, some of them don't even make sense.

Getting to the point of the this discussion, do you think crashes are fair? As I believe it is to frequent. Second point on penalties it feels like every time there is a crash it always evolving my driver and the fault is always mine is this the same in your game?

If not, please any advice for a new player.

I agree with penalties but not with crashes. I think crashes are well balanced and is a thing I like because it makes the season realistic.
In some GP there's a lot of accidente but that is a thing that happens in F1 time to time.
Now, in my gameplay this happen in Azerbaidjan, which makes sense because it's a street narrow circuit.
And in Practice 1 a car crashes time to time, and this is a thing that makes realistic the grand prix weekend too.

[Auro]

i fnished one race with 10 crashed cars, and 3 red flags, not raining.... seems like every new patch the game is getting worst..

[Drysyn]

Leclerc rushed up the inside of Norris as he turned in for a corner and Hit Norris (Leclerc muscled his way past up the inside so Norris was half a car's length behind), yet Norris got the penalty... it wasn't even his fault

[housestationlive]

10 races. 25 crashes, more than 30 millions to produces car part broken. this game is a giant waste of time. you calculate precise settings, and all your 200 hours of calculations ruined by one or another stupidity from the ai.

- qualify traffic only impacting humans
- sefty car ends without everyone being in a queue (even after unlapping)
- team mate crashes everytaime (even set on "not block team mate).
- sprint week end free practice 2 useless because you can just set the front wing
- you can't access to your race strategy on red flag mode
- qualify plan not respectected when set before session (especially cool down lap between 2 hot laps)
- you can't set confidence and ers battle before the race and you have to pause immediately after start
- widescreen have interface in the middle of the screen and loading picture is just enlarged

should i continue ?????? 2022 support was ended because 2023 was supposed to bring improvements.

- this confidence part is just a prank where drivers are humiliated and constantly crying. you can't even play faster than speed 1 because you have to change setting every 3 seconds. repetitive and boring feature.
- same for tyre temperature, you put the the slowest mode, it takes 10 laps to lost 10 degreses and turn back to normal. if you to 10 laps in the slowest mode, you're very last.
- the tyre strategy makes no point when you can easily finish every single race with 1 stop, and when the hard tyres sometimes lasts 70 laps.
- the ai always guess calculate the perfect strategy, but with the little information we have, we are not robot to guess the perfect strategy for every race, even real strategist make lot of mistakes
- try to finish the haas season at 6th position like the board asked, when the car worth 10th position, and you will figure how little impact you have on theses totally randomised races where you pretending having an influence but 100% of time you get 3 overtook, confidence lost, and driving mistakes because of confidence lost.


and the most important
- how on earth your driver overtake each lap just before drs detection point, then your rival get drs and attack you right after. and doing this for 50 laps, over and over again.

this isn't about balancing or adjusting, this is actually about seriously considering to hire a dozen of COMPETENTS beta testers.