F1® Manager 2023

F1® Manager 2023

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Goul Oct 11, 2023 @ 11:43am
Tyre Temps unbalanced?
I now had several races where running the Tires brutal into the Red Temperatures on second highest Tempo Setting, just taking the wear hit and do 1 Extra Stop was way faster then anything else.

depending on the Track, between 10 and 20 Seconds faster over the Course of a race.
I already verified the game files because i thought i maybe had broken file or something.

I watch F1 regular and they are all about Tire Management, keeping tires in the optimal Temperature Window or tires get much slower or burn away if not in the right window.
Last edited by Goul; Oct 11, 2023 @ 11:46am
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FunDhu Oct 12, 2023 @ 12:37am 
i was wondering about tyre temps, i went the opposite way for a few races and had cold tyres to conserve them for a one stop when possible, pushing them hard at first to get the temps up and then backing off.

i'll try running harder with the extra stop and see how it works
nh2008 Oct 12, 2023 @ 1:44am 
Originally posted by Goul:
I now had several races where running the Tires brutal into the Red Temperatures on second highest Tempo Setting, just taking the wear hit and do 1 Extra Stop was way faster then anything else.

depending on the Track, between 10 and 20 Seconds faster over the Course of a race.
I already verified the game files because i thought i maybe had broken file or something.

I watch F1 regular and they are all about Tire Management, keeping tires in the optimal Temperature Window or tires get much slower or burn away if not in the right window.

I feel the answer is yes. In an ideal (real) world a normal race pace would connect to normal or agressive tyre usage (depends on the driver/car's tyre handling). The attack mode should have using at special cases like beginning of the race, last laps of the race before and after of pit sops, overtakings, but no more than until 3 or 4 laps. When the player pushes more than that the consequences should have been huge tyre deg or crashes due the driver errors. So it would be an ideal balance in my opinion.
Last edited by nh2008; Oct 12, 2023 @ 1:51am
Goul Oct 12, 2023 @ 3:26am 
I tested another race with going straight for red tire temps and kept the tyres for 90% of the race in the red temperatures.
Was driving mostly Orange Driving settings with a few laps here and there of yellow.

There is a loss of pace Starting at yellow Temps, but, increase in pace through orange driving style is way bigger then decrease through Temperature and if there is an increase in Tyre Wear at Yellow Temps its so low i couldnt see it. its basicly only the increase in Wear for the driving style.
I set my Strategy to Orange driving settings so i could see if there is more wear when constantly driving that style.

There is a slight decrease in pace again when going to red Teamps and a slight increase in Tyre wear. I was going 2-3 degrees into the Red Temps so, maybe going even higher would ioncrease wear, i dont know.

Still, increase in Pace from driving in Orange driving settings was way bigger then decrease of pace from Temps and through driving 2-3 laps of yellow driving allowed me to keep my Pit stop target.

None of my drivers, started new season with williams and didnt change drivers, had any mistakes.
Last edited by Goul; Oct 12, 2023 @ 3:29am
nh2008 Oct 12, 2023 @ 11:14am 
As far as I know, high temperature (above the ideal temperature range) tyre does not reduce speed, it just increases tyre wear. Not enough in my opinion. You are right, the game encourages an aggressive approach, i.e. push as hard as you can :) If you ask me, a more balanced way would be better.
Oggmeista May 20, 2024 @ 5:23pm 
not just that tire temps are incorrect that is IRL assumming all other factors are equal softer compounds will get hotter than harder conpounds, but that is not the case in this daft game where softer compunds will be cooler than harder tires
Yes they do have a lower thermal resiistence in that they will start to overheat at a lower temperature threshold, but it's still incorrect that the game has lower temperatures for softer tires compared to harder tires,,,,

I was curious about what i was seeing from the figures so decided to investigate further at knowledge and technical databases, and that's when my suspicions were verified, the temps are fundamentally incorrect in this game, thankfully it's largely irrelevant because the wear rates are still consistent.
Last edited by Oggmeista; May 20, 2024 @ 5:24pm
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