The game is too easy

[Frusciante64]

Hello.

This is my first F1 Manager, i have some experience in other management F1 game such as motorsport Management (more than 300 hours).

The game is pretty cool even if there is a lack of data visualization insight and there is some bugs (we can understand, this is their 2nd try).

But I find the game way too easy and it's taking all the fun away.

I say that, even if I don't use fails mechanics (don't use kerbs or Manual qualification).

My first season at Alpine, after fews development, I can easily put the 2 cars in Q3 and take P4/P5 without challenge.

So I decided to edit cars performance in order to enhance competitors.
Now, I'm the 7th force !
I start Austria Austria and Britain GP... still the same.
P7 and P5 with Ocon (without crashes in the TOP 10).

What are your thoughts about that ?

I hesitate to stop as I don't find it "realistic" enough.

P.S : sorry for my english, this not my langage.

[Frusciante64]

Some players just want to take a very bad team and make podiums in Seasons 1 maybe...
That's not the way I enjoy video games.

I agree that it is very difficult to please every players.
But video games becomes more and more easy since 2005/2010.

I have the same problem with Football Manager, you have to force yourself to have some restrictions because you systematically outperform your "natural ranking".

[Frusciante64]

Concerning F1 Manager 23, we can add that our drivers are improving quicker than others drivers.

S1 with Alpine, OCO & GAS took +2 Overall !!
I have no hope anymore.
At Monza, we started 18 and 20th (engines/Gears penalties), we have the 7th car/10 on the grid (because I used editor to improve top team and midfielders)
We still manage to finish P6 and P10 !
Without red flag, SC in dry conditions and with a lack of top speed !


When I play this kind of game, I want to feel challenge, i want to struggle like Alpine do this season.
I want to enjoy taking P8/P9 with hard racing.
I want to enjoy the feeling to develop step by step the car performance.

[Zykotiq]

Publicado originalmente por Frusciante64:

Concerning F1 Manager 23, we can add that our drivers are improving quicker than others drivers.

S1 with Alpine, OCO & GAS took +2 Overall !!
I have no hope anymore.
At Monza, we started 18 and 20th (engines/Gears penalties), we have the 7th car/10 on the grid (because I used editor to improve top team and midfielders)
We still manage to finish P6 and P10 !
Without red flag, SC in dry conditions and with a lack of top speed !


When I play this kind of game, I want to feel challenge, i want to struggle like Alpine do this season.
I want to enjoy taking P8/P9 with hard racing.
I want to enjoy the feeling to develop step by step the car performance.

Replace Gasly and Ocon with Martins, Doohan or Hadjar, that would create a bit of challenge for yourself, as drivers do have a great impact.
But again I don't really know what you're trying to get from this post.
Either put some limitations on yourself to create a challenge or drop the game, it's not that hard.
The game is not that hard if you know what you're doing, so the only way to challenge yourself is to limit what you can do.
If that sounds boring, then uninstall the game and move on with your life.
Have a good one.

[Frusciante64]

Yes I Stop it.

I m a big fan of F1 and Management game, that's the reason i try to find a way to have a better experience with this game.

I don't want to make too much decisions that i would not take if i have to optimise my team.

You are right, there is nothing that we can do for the moment.

[AM]

you can teach me how to do it as I am unable to get these types of results! Were you by any chance using the design bug in the 1.6 patch which made exponential gains if you just focused on one slider to the right? if so, its been changed back today.

[Frusciante64]

i don't know what kind of bug you are talking about and I don't see any changes with the patch

[Frusciante64]

I do nothing special.
I took The Ferrari Technical Designer (Cardile) at the begining of the season, try to improve the Alpine in the better way.

I try to have at least 60% knowledge of the circuit for each driver and at least 92% car settings after each FP.

I push for the 3 first laps and I micro manage every tense situation (defense/Attack).

I know well formula one strategies and I played a lot to Motorsport Manager (at the maximum level of difficulty), maybe that's help.

[AM]

They changed how much expertise gain you got depending on how you set the sliders in 1.6, which meant it was very easy to design overpowered cars - they have now reversed teh changes in a patch today

[AM]

Publicado originalmente por Frusciante64:

I do nothing special.
I took The Ferrari Technical Designer (Cardile) at the begining of the season, try to improve the Alpine in the better way.

I try to have at least 60% knowledge of the circuit for each driver and at least 92% car settings after each FP.

I push for the 3 first laps and I micro manage every tense situation (defense/Attack).

I know well formula one strategies and I played a lot to Motorsport Manager (at the maximum level of difficulty), maybe that's help.

See - I achieve the same even with simulated practise, just adjusting the settings between each round. Normally go into race with very high confidence. First 3 laps doesn't matter how hard i push the other cars are always quicker. I found that with McClaren and William and Alpha Tauri. I did find it a bit easy with Alpine other than the crashes/

[AM]

Do you adjust fuel at start? (go in with less fuel?) Are your tyre strategies any different? If its a case of great car development - then it may have been the bug allowing for that if its been since the 1.6 patch.

[Frusciante64]

But As I said, the problem is that I used editor to give a big boost in performance to every team.
McLaren , Aston, FER et MER have the same level for instance, and I gave a boost to Mercedes (because they were too close to Alpine in terms of performance).

MErcedes is doing sh.. every races, awful strategy, under performance in Quali everytime ...

[Frusciante64]

It's not great car development as Alpine is between 11 and 17th in each rank after the boost I gave to other teams.

I push with fuel the 4 or 5 five first laps.

2 laps before i pit and 2 laps after.

I push the fuel in defending and attacking situation.

I rarely have crashes after 12 oR 13 races.
I rarely give order to attack or defend aggressively.
I rarely push ERS battle assist (I manage it manually when situation is tense).

There is a price for other team to push hard in the begining of the race.
They can do poor strategy after that, for instance, stay on the track with used tyres and lose a lot of time.

[AM]

Maybe your performance boost isn't actually doing what you expected? Personally I haven't found need for a performance boost for other teams when i am a williams or AT - I have to earn every point.

[Frusciante64]

That's a possibility.

But I have the feeling there are some changes.
MCLaren is now fighting for podiums.

And after every changes, i feel differences.
But not enough.

I can consider that Alpine can play podiums in some circumstances , IRL, they did 2 podiums but in specifics conditions.
In game, i can play podiums oR P4/ P5 on a regular basis.

It's not only me.
I follow a french Youtuber that took Alpine, I was well performing S1 and Ocon is leader of the championship in the middle of S2...

[TTakeshi]

Reduce durability is too strong.
(So it's easy to jump up.)

The way AI use engines is not appropriate.
(AI use yellow warning under 50% engine in race.
Player uses new engine in race, old engine in practice.)

AI drivers is overly afraid of tires overheating?
(They sometimes pit stop even though their tires have a lot of durability left.
They had planned to use the tires in attack mode, but feared overheating, so they ran them in normal mode?)

I play for McLaren and finished S1 in 4th place.
Norris finished on the podium 7 times, including winning 3 races.
McLaren has made only 2 updates to all parts.
All other days were spent researching for next season.
As a result, in S2, Norris has won six straight races now.