russian translation

[faust.twi]

i playd this game many years ago with crappy pirate translation. after all those years i finally bought official game and translation is still like it was made by drunk students.

few things aren't even in russian. it's ukranian. for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sake, people...

[Soft Lockpick]

Not buying and pirating are not the same thing. You scummy scummy russian thief. :P

[S̨̛k̀͡͞y̵͜͝Ń҉͝e͢t]

Stop stealing things? Are you talking about? Half of your Western publishers steals things, income from the sale of games such as Fallout go to people who were close to nothing to do with their development, while often published in its raw form. And this despite the fact that the community has long been created patches, translations, fixes, additions. Why is the torrent, we can find an assembly that includes all of the above (patches, fixes), but here in Steam forced to pay for the game 10-15 years old, without support, without the fixes and patches? First, teach your publishers to produce optimized and updated the game, and then tell us what to do. In the end, many people (including myself) have come to Steam to buy licensed copies of games, but torrents enjoyed to get what is here is not sold, and assembly of games, support for which is carried out fans (patches, fixes, etc.)

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İlk olarak faust.twi tarafından gönderildi:

well, after all i am pirate. i still think that pirats give me a better service and from time to time i play games from torrents and only if i like them i buy them here or at gog. for example i never bought wastelend 2 because i didn't like it. but i just love baldur's gate so i bought it when i saw they finally made linux version. and i played torrent edition about 8 years ago. that's how good this game.

but if translation quality will become worse later in the game i doubt i will buy other games at least at full price.

İlk olarak SkyNet tarafından gönderildi:

Stop stealing things? Are you talking about? Half of your Western publishers steals things, income from the sale of games such as Fallout go to people who were close to nothing to do with their development, while often published in its raw form. And this despite the fact that the community has long been created patches, translations, fixes, additions. Why is the torrent, we can find an assembly that includes all of the above (patches, fixes), but here in Steam forced to pay for the game 10-15 years old, without support, without the fixes and patches? First, teach your publishers to produce optimized and updated the game, and then tell us what to do. In the end, many people (including myself) have come to Steam to buy licensed copies of games, but torrents enjoyed to get what is here is not sold, and assembly of games, support for which is carried out fans (patches, fixes, etc.)

"Piracy. Piracy never changes..."
Don't expect any respect after stealing things. And don't blame people for what you are.
If you want the game to be well translated, just cooperate the dev team. If you don't know how or simply don't want to be apart just don't expect your desires to be considered after. Anyway, you may avoid supporting and purchasing products in case of bad results, pure and simple.

[S̨̛k̀͡͞y̵͜͝Ń҉͝e͢t]

"Unpretentious people, unpretentious people never changes..."
If you say that other people do not have the right to choose a normal, working, corrected product, you are - totalitarist.

And you continue to buy games for a "Thousand caps. No more, no less." that do not by right the development belong of new publishers, with old bugs and small resolution ahahahaha. Thanks to Bethesda.

Please sorry my bad English, it is Google Translate.

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İlk olarak SkyNet tarafından gönderildi:

"Unpretentious people, unpretentious people never changes..."
If you say that other people do not have the right to choose a normal, working, corrected product, you are - totalitarist.

I didn't say that! Point me where I was saying such words.

İlk olarak SkyNet tarafından gönderildi:

And you continue to buy games for a "Thousand caps. No more, no less." that do not by right the development belong of new publishers, with old bugs and small resolution ahahahaha. Thanks to Bethesda.

Are we talking about Bethesda Softworks or Bethesda's products inside this thread? No. You're forcing the wrong goals. Try to do it straightly.

İlk olarak SkyNet tarafından gönderildi:

Please sorry my bad English, it is Google Translate.

Update:
It's really hard to understand you. Avoid using such services in future.

[S̨̛k̀͡͞y̵͜͝Ń҉͝e͢t]

İlk olarak Sarmat tarafından gönderildi:

Are we talking about Bethesda Softworks or Bethesda's products inside this thread?

Do not juggle words.

İlk olarak Sarmat tarafından gönderildi:

It's really hard to understand you. Avoid using such services in future.

Хорошо, в таком случае может будете переводить на мой язык?

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İlk olarak SkyNet tarafından gönderildi:

Хорошо, в таком случае может будете переводить на мой язык?

If you are not about violating the rules in this way, fine by me.

[S̨̛k̀͡͞y̵͜͝Ń҉͝e͢t]

Oh my god

[Soft Lockpick]

Lol...

So basically your opinion is you have the right to a Russian translated version of this game (amusing, you don't have a right to any random piece of entertainment period) and that right overrides actually paying for it. If a Russian version of the game is not made, or if the translation is not good enough you feel you have the right to just take it without paying.

I've known plenty of pirates, and most of them acknowledge "Hey, I just don't have the money, so if I didn't pirate I just wouldn't buy the games because I can't" and while I don't think it's ok I can understand that. They have a hobby they want to enjoy and they don't consider themselves a lost sale because they couldn't have bought the thing with their budgets.

But your take is just silly. "Devs didn't customize their product for me so I'm going to steal it because screw anyone who doesn't make things the way I want them to."

If I'm truly reading that correctly and that's what we've hit in this conversation you are a child. You can't even acknowledge that you're taking something you have no right to. It's sad.

[faust.twi]

right now i don't have reasons to stop "stealing" because with and without money i get bad translation. in case with pirat translation and official translation i have to join translation team and do it by myself. it's not a big deal for me to help developers with localisation but why do i have to buy game for this? their work should be paid but mine shouldn't.

[Soft Lockpick]

The reason to stop stealing is it's immoral and illegal. You do have a reason. You just don't care about it.

The problem with this conversation is you're arguing that they should try to win your money away from the pirates, as if you're entitled to pirate and it's totally ok to pirate.

It isn't. Ya scummy scummy thief.

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İlk olarak faust.twi tarafından gönderildi:

right now i don't have reasons to stop "stealing" because with and without money i get bad translation. in case with pirat translation and official translation i have to join translation team and do it by myself. it's not a big deal for me to help developers with localisation but why do i have to buy game for this? their work should be paid but mine shouldn't.

Unofficial localization is not always pirate localization. In my memory, most of Unofficial localization patches is very well suited with game content so you don't need to "steal" the game at all.
As I said previously "If you want good translation of the game texts / voiceovers, just cooperate the dev team". Throw them some tips or mistakes you have noticed ingame. It's not so hard to be done. Besides they are not telepathists.

[S̨̛k̀͡͞y̵͜͝Ń҉͝e͢t]

Dear DeathByFacepalm, sorry me, but I do not know exactly to whom you are applying.

If to me, then I can tell you that I came to this thread to see the question about the localization of the game in Steam, then I saw someone wrote that the Russian leader in the number of piracy and publishers do not want to work for her.

So I do not support the pirates as those who hacks into the game released for 5-8 years because they cause real damage to the industry and spread malware. But I support the people who help old games (Arcanum, Fallout, Baldur's Gate, Vampire The Masquarade) to find a new life in the form of assemblies with patches, with fixes, including translations.

And so tell me - can we consider piracy when you connect in to the game translation, and the publisher has the right to it, but that it somehow did not include the licensed product-purchased the game?


Beamdog owns the right of translation game Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition - from Russian companies - 1C. Beamdog not include voiceovers available in translation from 1C in the edition of the game on Steam. Man on the forum issued a Russifier which contains voice of 1C. If you think he is a pirate, I think that - no.

P.S.: Again - sorry my bad english.

[meAD]

no one cares

[Soft Lockpick]

How do you expect to be of any use on a translation effort when you're demonstrating an inability to clearly communicate in the language of origin?

And Beamdog having the rights to provide a translation and not making use of them does not justify piracy on your part. If that's what you're doing. If you're modding the game to include translations, but you bought it, no harm no foul in my mind.