Reputation

[joemarinehudman]

So my Main is a Paladin and had my reputation at 14 early on. That was until I had my rogue unlock a chest in a house and the guards came rushing in. Killed the guards so now i have a Fallen Paladin which makes things a bit exciting nearly every time i re-enter a city or Inn with all the Flaming Fist and Bounty Hunters tryin to kill me. But my question is, is there a way outa this? I will do things that raises my reputation by one but then after a smash another set of guards trying to kill me i am back down to 1 reputation, lol. Be like this the rest of the way thru BG or can i ever get a good reputation again?

[Damn_Monkey]

Easiest way is to just dump a ton of gold at a church.

[joemarinehudman]

ah hells, didnt even think of that, thanks

[AlexMBrennan]

But my question is, is there a way outa this?

If you refer to the "fallen" status then not really - you won't be able to regain your powers until BG2.

[Corey Greyfox]

Originally posted by joemarinehudman:

but then after a smash another set of guards trying to kill me i am back down to 1 reputation

So the obvious answer is "stop doing that" :)

[joemarinehudman]

Originally posted by AlexMBrennan:

But my question is, is there a way outa this?

If you refer to the "fallen" status then not really - you won't be able to regain your powers until BG2.

I'm guessing i have to have that fallen Paladin status fixed for my reputation to climb again. lol, so BG2 then, this is gonna be a long BG1. No idea how many chapters there are but i'm mid chapter 3.

Originally posted by Corey Greyfox:

Originally posted by joemarinehudman:

but then after a smash another set of guards trying to kill me i am back down to 1 reputation

So the obvious answer is "stop doing that" :)

Yea, well actually its not the obvious answer. You cant stop. There is no options to give up and do jail time or pay a fee. The guards say their bit then go hostile.

[Clovis Sangrail]

If you are in mid chapter 3, you're not that far in. I would say a re-start is in order.

Or go pick up Dorn and Kagaine and Viconia and Edwin for an all evil cast and see it through.

[joemarinehudman]

I gave that some thought but ya know, I think i'll play this thru since I did use the rogue to try and swipe some things from a residential House. If things get to rough or annoying then i'll start fresh again. pushing on for now, appreciate the tip.

[Voroff]

Originally posted by joemarinehudman:

Originally posted by AlexMBrennan:

If you refer to the "fallen" status then not really - you won't be able to regain your powers until BG2.

I'm guessing i have to have that fallen Paladin status fixed for my reputation to climb again. lol, so BG2 then, this is gonna be a long BG1. No idea how many chapters there are but i'm mid chapter 3. 1)

Originally posted by Corey Greyfox:

So the obvious answer is "stop doing that" :)

Yea, well actually its not the obvious answer. You cant stop. There is no options to give up and do jail time or pay a fee. The guards say their bit then go hostile. 2)

1) Nope, Fallen indicates that your paladin has broken his vows, and his powers are GONE. Reputation and Status are two different things. Reputation you can buy at churches, for your powers and Fallen status, go to Baldurs Gate 2.

2) Well, yes it is the obvious answer. Flee, or cast a stun/sleep/confusion spell THEN FLEE. Its as simple as that, the obvious answer is still the obvious answer. You have magic in this world, but you rather hamfist some guards to death ? Ho, it reminds me that bare-fist you can pummel someone inconscious. You have the choice not to cut innocent lives (on duty to protect, even) with a sword, but you did it again and again. No wonder your god turned away from you as you dont feel any shame about being a murderhobbo :p

[Corey Greyfox]

Originally posted by joemarinehudman:

Yea, well actually its not the obvious answer. You cant stop. There is no options to give up and do jail time or pay a fee. The guards say their bit then go hostile.

You don't have to kill them. You can disable them, or simply run away. You'll never get your reputation to stay up if you keep murdering people :)

[joemarinehudman]

Originally posted by Corey Greyfox:

Originally posted by joemarinehudman:

Yea, well actually its not the obvious answer. You cant stop. There is no options to give up and do jail time or pay a fee. The guards say their bit then go hostile.

You don't have to kill them. You can disable them, or simply run away. You'll never get your reputation to stay up if you keep murdering people :)

running away dont help, the Guard party you run from stays there. And if they chase you across the map, when you return they are back at the city gates waiting. So that means no access to shops and temples. Same goes for Bounty Hunters, they wait for your return.

[Corey Greyfox]

Originally posted by joemarinehudman:

running away dont help, the Guard party you run from stays there. And if they chase you across the map, when you return they are back at the city gates waiting. So that means no access to shops and temples. Same goes for Bounty Hunters, they wait for your return.

Then stay stuck in your current problem. You asked for help and the help is "Stop murdering people". Your rep will never stay high enough to avoid being hunted if you keep murdering people. If you have the gold to do it, make a b-line to a temple and buy up your reputation. If you don't have the gold to do it, you're going to have to run away from fights with guards and bounty hunters. If you have a mage/cleric you can disable them, so they can't follow you. Even without a cleric/mage, you seem to be able to kill them, so that means you have the ability to knock them out instead of killing them(Switch to fists when their health is low). Lure the guards/hunters to a corner of the map you don't plan to visit again and disable them there. If, after you get your rep back up, you run into the hostile guards/hunters again, don't murder them or you start all over.

This isn't GTA, you can't go on a killing spree, hide for a few minutes and everything is forgotten.

[Wicket W. Warrick]

Originally posted by joemarinehudman:

running away dont help, the Guard party you run from stays there. And if they chase you across the map, when you return they are back at the city gates waiting. So that means no access to shops and temples. Same goes for Bounty Hunters, they wait for your return. [/quote]
My suggestion: reload a previous game (or restart) and don't do this again.

Anyway you have 3 problems:
1. Fallen paladin. THis won't be fixed until BG2, and not at the beginning. You should run for a stronghold immediately and know how to get it.

2. Low rep. Stay out of towns and go to the temple near beregost (it's a separated area from the town, you won't have problem . If you don't have money try to collect them out of town. You need something like 3-4k to raise from 1 to 4 (further increases are less expensive).

3. Hostile guards. AFTER YOU HAVE RAISED REPUTATION Bounty hunters and new guards won't appear anymore, but hostile from previous encounters will remain. As already told you DON'T KILL THEM, let them chase you in a corner of the location, when you won't go anymore and then leave location, they will stay there for the rest of the game.

So, my suggeston is:
1. reload a previous game before becoming a fallen paladin. It's a long way till BG2, are you sure that you like it this way? You will do exactly the same gamethrough with a paladin without powers and with less XP (story and encounters are not different, maybe some dialog)
2. If you choose to carry on this way, FIRST fix your reputation staying outside tow, THEN go back in town and let hostile guards chase you in corner position of the map before leaving them there for the rest of the game.

[joemarinehudman]

yup, reloaded. appreciate the help, you to Corry. Though yes i did ask for help but what you were explaining wasnt working for me so i would mention it hoping for more explaination. Had no idea you could switch to fist to KO. But so you both know, i did run to a corner with them chasing me, i waited for them to come into view before leaving the map. Then i came back from a differet dirrection and they were back at the gate waiting. Only the guards and bounty hunters have done this, everything else i fled from if the fight was to hard stayed where i left them when leaving map. Also i didnt come back sometimes for 5 game days later and the guards were still there, so wasnt hiding for a few minutes. Give me a bit more credit that that, been gaming a long time. Just learning the mechanics of a game i havent played in some 25 years or whatever its been.

[Voroff]

Originally posted by joemarinehudman:

But so you both know, i did run to a corner with them chasing me, i waited for them to come into view before leaving the map. Then i came back from a differet dirrection and they were back at the gate waiting. Only the guards and bounty hunters have done this, everything else i fled from if the fight was to hard stayed where i left them when leaving map.

You, of course, have fixed your reputation at a temple in this meantime, you have NOT quit the map and immediately came back, innit ?? Because if you did just that, of course [NEW] hunters will be waiting for you.

[Wicket W. Warrick]

Originally posted by joemarinehudman:

Then i came back from a differet dirrection and they were back at the gate waiting.

Not them, other guards. You need to fix rep before. When this happens you can fix it at the very beginning, fleeing from 3-4 guards/mages and running to a temple. If guards, bounty hunters, mages etc have already shown up multiple times, it's almost impossible to fix it, so just reload.

P.S. Normal people can stay hostile but not attacking you, just ignore them.