Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition

Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition

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temps Jan 27, 2023 @ 1:00pm
Should you side with Virconia?
After passing the Friendly Arm inn or whatever it's called you run across a dark elf named Virconia who is charged with murder and being chased by some group called the flaming fist or something like that... monks maybe? Should you side with her or or with her those pursuing her?
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Millstone85 Jan 27, 2023 @ 1:13pm 
If you want her as a companion, you should save her. The Flaming Fist soldier is not a potential companion.

But know that, being evil aligned, she will leave the party if your reputation gets too high. I know, that makes no sense, but that's how it is. Some companions and NPCs may also react violently to her presence.
temps Jan 27, 2023 @ 1:15pm 
Originally posted by Millstone85:
If you want her as a companion, you should save her. The Flaming Fist soldier is not a potential companion.

But know that, being evil aligned, she will leave the party if your reputation gets too high. I know, that makes no sense, but that's how it is. Some companions and NPCs may also react violently to her presence.

Ah, okay... the Flaming Fist or whatever said she was a murdering drow and I just wasn't sure if I should take that as true at face value or not.
Millstone85 Jan 27, 2023 @ 1:35pm 
Originally posted by temps:
Ah, okay... the Flaming Fist or whatever said she was a murdering drow and I just wasn't sure if I should take that as true at face value or not.
If you romance her in BG2, she tells you about the people she killed and you may judge that they really deserved to die. Said romance may also shift her alignment to neutral (or so I am told, because no matter how lovey-dovey things get I haven't seen that result).
Wicket W. Warrick Jan 28, 2023 @ 1:19am 
Originally posted by Millstone85:
Originally posted by temps:
Ah, okay... the Flaming Fist or whatever said she was a murdering drow and I just wasn't sure if I should take that as true at face value or not.
If you romance her in BG2, she tells you about the people she killed and you may judge that they really deserved to die. Said romance may also shift her alignment to neutral (or so I am told, because no matter how lovey-dovey things get I haven't seen that result).
But other dialogs let you understand that the truth can be different.

Anyway I like Viconia, I choose by pure roleplaying reason, but I usually save her. But don't get fooled by her talkings. She's a liar, evil and not undefended as she might let you presume. And that's why all her story is one of the most developped in all the saga.
Sati44 Jan 28, 2023 @ 6:25am 
Btw if memory serves me right it's the good aligned characters (Kivan, Ajantis, Keldro) that will eventually attack her after traveling with her for some time.

I mean even Branwen tells Viconia to sod off when Vic compliment her.

I mean she is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to some companions but so is Dynaheir and she is LG.

But bg since it's release did wierd things with the companions that not always made sense.
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Centurion Jan 30, 2023 @ 1:30pm 
Originally posted by Sati44:
Btw if memory serves me right it's the good aligned characters (Kivan, Ajantis, Keldro) that will eventually attack her after traveling with her for some time.

I mean even Branwen tells Viconia to sod off when Vic compliment her.

I mean she is an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to some companions but so is Dynaheir and she is LG.

But bg since it's release did wierd things with the companions that not always made sense.

I have not noticed that in BG1, but perhaps it's coming in SoD, which adds more character interactions then the original game ever had. In the original I never saw any interactions at all, let alone aimed at Viccy. (In EE Dorn has issues with other characters, especially Ajantis!)

As to the relationship, even if you let her be killed in BG1, she will reappear in BG2 for a more involved interaction, although you can let her be killed again, if you like. Just understand, when the locals want to kill her, this is more like the burning of witches at Salem (just because,...) and not directly related to any actual murder. However, having her around lowers the party rep by 2. That is the only real cost.

However, there is an excellent reason to save her. Killing this particular fist will not give you a reputation hit, and he is easier to kill than the three you encounter on the way to Nashkell. The reason to do it, aside from the XP, is he provides a free suit of plate mail at a time when you may not be able to afford it. And if it bothers your conscience, keep in mind the Flaming Fist are not noble paladins and protectors. They are mercenaries like the Gold Cloaks in GoT. Remember what they did to Ned Stark?
Millstone85 Jan 30, 2023 @ 1:40pm 
Originally posted by Centurion:
As to the relationship, even if you let her be killed in BG1, she will reappear in BG2 for a more involved interaction, although you can let her be killed again, if you like. Just understand, when the locals want to kill her, this is more like the burning of witches at Salem (just because,...) and not directly related to any actual murder. However, having her around lowers the party rep by 2. That is the only real cost.

However, there is an excellent reason to save her. Killing this particular fist will not give you a reputation hit, and he is easier to kill than the three you encounter on the way to Nashkell. The reason to do it, aside from the XP, is he provides a free suit of plate mail at a time when you may not be able to afford it. And if it bothers your conscience, keep in mind the Flaming Fist are not noble paladins and protectors. They are mercenaries like the Gold Cloaks in GoT. Remember what they did to Ned Stark?
BG2 is even easier on your conscience. The people about to kill Viconia, once a servant of Lolth and now of Shar, are doing so in the name of... a third evil goddess, Beshaba.
Centurion Jan 30, 2023 @ 1:43pm 


I will also add that, in BG2, you can redeem her from evil, if you really want to. Not all the way to LG, but we can't all be Drizzt.
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Date Posted: Jan 27, 2023 @ 1:00pm
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