"Good" ways to decrease reputation?

[Marcos_DS]

Is there a good way to decrease your reputation without serious crimes ? I'm currently at 18 and a party member will leave if i get another point, and every other quest will increase my rep by 1...

[Marcos_DS]

DarkRaven님이 먼저 게시:

Marcos_DS님이 먼저 게시:

Er, you take that far too serious, they are fictional written characters and of course they never had free will nor could they make any decision. I like to RP a bit, but this being a computer game with very limited companion interaction, you have to imagine most of it.

Nah, fauxpas is correct. You are literally struggling to force evil toons to stay with you every step of the way if you're too good. Forcing them to hold back but not change.
If you stick to the vanilla story it is revealed.

Topic is solved, and i will RP the game to my personal preference.

[Internet Cafe]

I mod my Trilogy so that if you use Ressurect dead, it angers the gods and they punish you. Everytime you raise a dead, your reputation decrease a point because the gods are laughing at how bad you suck at this horrendously difficult game.

[m1sk0]

Good way to decrease reputation is to kill innocent commoners!
If you want more fun, kill some guards too.
I usually kill those who have unique items, ie Algernon or Jared

[red255]

yeah I'm not sure what 'serious' crimes are. game rewards you with rep for not stealing and murdering people.

you murder one civie, there is a hit for assault, and a hit for murder. if its too much of a hit you can just donate to a temple to bring it back up to an appropriate level.

In BG2 you can pay 2 REP at any time as one of your character abilities after a point in the main story. but BG1 I would simply murder some civlian if I wanted to manage my rep.

frankly though I prefer the better vendor prices to the various evil NPC. they aren't that much better than the good ones.

[m1sk0]

red255님이 먼저 게시:

frankly though I prefer the better vendor prices to the various evil NPC. they aren't that much better than the good ones.

there is no better wizard in BG2 than Edwin (especially for ToB), and Viconia was boosted with her WIS compared to BG1

[mike_hanna211]

The way I see it, evil characters would have no qualms about killing innocents. But I think it needs context. A Lawful Evil character would not break the law, at least willingly, but would probably goad someone into attacking them so they can claim self-defense (which then wouldn't count as an assault or murder charge). Neutral Evil are opportunistic (playing law and chaos equally), and would be as likely to do the above, or simply kill or steal on a whim. Chaotic Evil characters WOULD kill someone they felt was weak; and have no qualms about breaking laws in doing so.

Murder is an obvious evil act. However, there's stealing, and pickpocketing. Both of those tend away from the Lawful end of the law/chaos scale (unless you're stealing for the benefit of something other than yourself or party). So, Montaron is a Neutral Evil Fighter/Thief. He's a perfect candidate for blatant stealing or pickpocketing. Imoen, on the other hand, being Neutral Good, would not hold back on stealing IF, and only if, it benefit the group or their goals in some manner. If she were caught, she would not fight back and would most likely run.

So, play accordingly. There's 3 shades of evil in AD&D. And remember, evil characters are selfish beings. Whatever they do, it's for their gain or benefit only. It's HOW and/or WHY they obtain it that determines their position on the law/chaos scale. Of course, this is purely from an RP perspective. Feel free to murder and plunder until your Reputation is as low as desired, LOL.

[fauxpas]

I can see Imeon stealing for the thrill, at least from someone who she considers wealthy enough a few trinkets going missing wouldn't hurt.

[voehringer_nitron]

Yeah, she says something about the monks never having anything worth stealing from them.

[百利甜]

BG1 ? There is a businessman in Carnival which will summon a guard if you touched his goods which is placed on the table （“touch” means "touch" not means "pick up and throw in your backpack"）!!! This is undoubtedly a blackmail but still cause you decrease reputation if you killed the guard or the businessman.

[Kamuizin]

百利甜님이 먼저 게시:

BG1 ? There is a businessman in Carnival which will summon a guard if you touched his goods which is placed on the table （“touch” means "touch" not means "pick up and throw in your backpack"）!!! This is undoubtedly a blackmail but still cause you decrease reputation if you killed the guard or the businessman.

"百利甜 attempts to use the forbidden ressurection post spell: Vita, Mortis, Careo!!"

[Mnemloch]

I just have Dorn kill a random Begger in BG, it's only a 8 rep hit so I can easily keep neutral and just use Black Lily for selling.

[wendigo211]

If you recruit Viconia or Dorn into your party, your Reputation will drop by 2. So you can get some breathing room by recruiting one and/or the other. If it's just one NPC you're worried about, then finish Durlag's Tower and slap the Helm of Opposite Alignment on that NPC (assuming they can wear a helm); problem solved.

[temps]

Black Sheep Inc님이 먼저 게시:

Step 1: acquire an AoE spell (fireball, skull trap, etc.)
Step 2: Get attacked in a tavern/city street or whatever
Step 3: Yeet the AoE spell at the enemy in such a way that it "accidentally" causes a bit of collateral damage to commoners and/or their children.
Immediate and substantial reputation loss will ensue

Wow BG lets you kill children? Lot of games released lately would never let you... a lot of them either make children invincible or not present in the game world so attacking them isn't an option. Even games like GTA would never let you do stuff like that... I mean notice there's no schools in GTA games

[Centurion]

Here is my tried and true way:

Send your thief, alone, into an occupied home. Steal something, or at least open a locked container, with people around. Then escape before the guards can get it together (boots of speed help here, a lot!) Make sure the AI is off so you don't kill any. When the guards start talking, tell them off. You get the REP loss, and no one is harmed. And, if you are lucky, you may have stolen something of value as a bonus!

Note: There is a cache limit in the game. Go back right away, and the guards will be there and hostile. Wait a while, visit lots of other areas, and eventually they go away.

[Campin_Carl]

So basically there's three options for lowering rep in BGEE in my opinion.
Step 1 - kill a watcher in Candlekeep for their plate armor. I think it's-4 rep but the armor keeps you alive and is expensive.
Step 2 - consider killing the bounty guy man in Naskel - oublek he drops 3000 gold (after prism and braige so no quest problems)
Step 3 - if ya didn't kill him, ya gotta kill before walking in Baldurs Gate. Algernoon in Beregost, he's up the main stairs, northern room. +2 CHA bonus, charm person. Great cloak, helps in dialogue, getting better prices. Some quests even require that you force combat to stop and charm and restart dialog. Algernoon is -9 rep so you don't really run into reputation problems after this one.

I couldn't find a fourth worth mentioning. Figured those three would cover it.
It's a problem because Dorn has carry weight for ankegs and wyvern, Baeloth has the most spells, Kagain can regenerate, and... Idk Viconia is cool, necromancy sounds like the best summon monster caster... oh and if you put up with Edwin being annoying, he's a great mage too.