Killing Viconia 100XP ?

[Robin]

hey,

I killed Viconia in the wood after she was purchased by a Flaming Fist officier.

Only get 100 XP...

It was 800 in the original version, right ? Maybe my party is too strong to get full XP ?

I retried this fight 10 times ! She died in one shot all the time. My average companion's level is 5.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

It's not 800 XP anymore for a very long time.

800 XP in BG1 : http://www.forgottenwars.com/bg1/ar2400.htm
100 XP in BGEE : http://www.gamebanshee.com/baldursgate/walkthrough/peldvale.php - http://baldursgate.wikia.com/wiki/Viconia_DeVir

[Robin]

thx a lot ;)

[Bronf]

why kill the best cleric in the game? D: <3 Viconia.

[Robin]

I play a Paladin ;)

[mike_hanna211]

Even a Paladin wouldn't just kill a drow out of hand. There has to be a reason, or cause, to do so. Otherwise, technically your Paladin committed murder; a Chaotic act.

[voehringer_nitron]

Originally posted by mike_hanna211:

Even a Paladin wouldn't just kill a drow out of hand. There has to be a reason, or cause, to do so. Otherwise, technically your Paladin committed murder; a Chaotic act.

And yet you can provoke Ajantis into attacking you through the dialogue tree.

[Robin]

Originally posted by mike_hanna211:

Even a Paladin wouldn't just kill a drow out of hand. There has to be a reason, or cause, to do so. Otherwise, technically your Paladin committed murder; a Chaotic act.

A Flaming fist officier is after her.

THIS IS JUSTICE.

or at least, the law

[Robin]

+ there's no choice.

1) You accept to help her, so you've to kill the Flaming Fist officier. AND you instantly loose 2 reputation point by having Viconia on your side.

2) You don't accept to help her. The result is she turn as an enemy and attack you.


Blame the game. Not me. This is how it's scripted.

[wendigo211]

You can help her and then not invite her into your party.

It's been awhile since I did a playthrough with Viconia, but IIRC she does tell you what happened in BG2. Although, I can't remember the details.

However as a Paladin, after you hear the guard's story and cast detect evil on Viconia, you would be justified in arresting her and executing her if she resists.

[mike_hanna211]

Originally posted by Robin:

Originally posted by mike_hanna211:

Even a Paladin wouldn't just kill a drow out of hand. There has to be a reason, or cause, to do so. Otherwise, technically your Paladin committed murder; a Chaotic act.

A Flaming fist officier is after her.

THIS IS JUSTICE.

or at least, the law

Ever hear of corrupt law enforcement? Chasing someone doesn't mean the person chased is evil or did something wrong. Also, question the Flaming Fist and he says "It's obvious she's evil, she's a drow." She's drow, so automatically evil? What about Drizzt Do'Urden? Sorry, murder at worst, or wrongful execution at best, wouldn't sit well with a Paladin at all. In fact, you can question the Flaming Fist asking what crimes she's committed. To which he replies to what I stated above (or something similar).

Lawful Good doesn't mean blindly following the Law. It's following the Law that benefits the GROUP (or sociey, or town, etc.). How is killing Viconia benefitting the group, in this case, with no evidence of wrongdoing?

Lawful Neutral would be an example of someone that obeys the Law regardless if it effects Good or Evil. "A soldier that follows orders is an example of Lawful Neutral...."

Originally posted by Robin:

+ there's no choice.

1) You accept to help her, so you've to kill the Flaming Fist officier. AND you instantly loose 2 reputation point by having Viconia on your side.

2) You don't accept to help her. The result is she turn as an enemy and attack you.


Blame the game. Not me. This is how it's scripted.

Yes you can help her, but deny her entry into your group. You are not forced to accept her. A Paladin wouldn't refuse help, so option 2 isn't even a valid choice, really if you're roleplaying.

[voehringer_nitron]

Originally posted by wendigo211:

You can help her and then not invite her into your party.

It's been awhile since I did a playthrough with Viconia, but IIRC she does tell you what happened in BG2. Although, I can't remember the details.

However as a Paladin, after you hear the guard's story and cast detect evil on Viconia, you would be justified in arresting her and executing her if she resists.

It was shortly after she arrived on the surface. She was being attacked by goblins and a caravan merchant, thinking her a surface elf, had his guards drive them off. He agreed to take her with him, in exchange for some of those "Drow arts." She traveled with the caravan for a time. One night his heart gave out, but the guards accussed her of murdering him.

[['w']]

I played as a paladin (decades ago :P) and helped her ofc, but didn't welcome her in my group, later on I met her again in Amn and was glad to rescue her again and I penetrated her with my paladin "edit:*censored*".

edit2: we had consensual sexytime

[Julius Borisov]

@Iwilbl This kind of humor is inappropriate for this game, rated Teen.

[Chi]

Murder someone as a Paladin so what could be a Blackguard! ;)

[mrstrider1]

The knock to your reputation comes simply from having a drow in your party and the attitutde towards them in general. Not from her evilness in any real form. If you talk to the guard you find out his only reason for his behavior is purely because she's not a readily accepted type of elf.

"Selling" her to the flaming fist officer. specially on those grounds is not all that good really either. And there used to be an option to kind of shame the guard into going away for persecuting her just for being different from what I'm remembering. It's been a long time since I've done it. So maybe I'm remembering wrong or perhaps it was a high charisma option.