what do you think of vanilla doom in 2025?

[OutSIdeOfTheBoX (chrisvig71)]

not giving you rules or anything, just say whatever you want about vanilla doom, now in 2025... like how is aged, how it is for a new player, how is nostalgic, what are worst and the best parts, whatever you feel you want to say... like do you think is aged well? (btw yeah i know EXACTLY what is vannilla doom, just saying that in case of any doubts)

[V I D A L]

Publicado originalmente por CyFiver:

OpenGL was the game changer... It added glowing to Imp Orbs, Lighting to any type of fire and more. So even right there... I know you aren't quite on point.

You are talking about source ports. No official release of Doom in the 90s offered none of these features. Actually, no official release of Doom ever had those Opengl features, not the Unity version, not the Xbox Live Arcade version nor the Kex version.

Source ports features like lighting and glow are cool, but not vanilla nor official.

[Captain n00by]

^ GZDoom kinda embodies those "extra features" that all the official releases lack.

It's a matter of taste but I quite enjoy playing DooM with xBRZ filter on, for increased/crisper texture and sprite detail, and all the extra lighting options.

EDIT: and ofc the "heretical" mouse look/free aim and jumping.

[Unseen]

Obviously doom64 is the superior 90s doom that's what I think.

[Seamus]

How anyone can stand xbrz filtering on doom sprites I will never understand. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ horrible looking.

[Seamus]

I wasn't talking about doom 64. Learn to read.

[Unseen]

NVM that had nothing to do with anything didn't read Captain noobs post, but I still like doom64 best.

[Balder]

I recently tried to play Doom again (this original version), but I was bored out of my mind. I guess you can't go back again.

I had some fun with the Dark Forces Remaster though, as the maps and story there is much superior.

After playing played through Doom Eternal on nightmare difficulty, even Doom 2016 feels anticlimactic by comparison. Still a bit sceptical about the more grounded combat in upcoming The Dark Ages, but time will tell..

[OutSIdeOfTheBoX (chrisvig71)]

Publicado originalmente por Balder:

I recently tried to play Doom again (this original version), but I was bored out of my mind. I guess you can't go back again.

I had some fun with the Dark Forces Remaster though, as the maps and story there is much superior.

After playing played through Doom Eternal on nightmare difficulty, even Doom 2016 feels anticlimactic by comparison. Still a bit sceptical about the more grounded combat in upcoming The Dark Ages, but time will tell..

Yeah doom can be very boring, but also very fun other times, it depends on the mood you are, and what you are used too, if you are used to eternal then it can be normal...

[foetus13]

Doom 1993 is still the GOAT

[postmortem]

For me, vanilla doom with wads that use DeHackEd are the best since they keep the gameplay from 1993 but without feeling so limited, since vanilla doom currently feels quite limited in certain things.

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/DeHackEd

[OutSIdeOfTheBoX (chrisvig71)]

Publicado originalmente por Balder:

Publicado originalmente por foetus13:

Doom 1993 is still the GOAT

As a historical game, sure. I remember playing this game as a kid with my friends on an old Intel computer and a CRT monitor, and being scared out of my mind. What a rush.

Unfortunately, now having access to shooters like Crysis 1-3, Doom Eternal, Resident Evil remakes, Half-Life etc., I just can't connect with these old games anymore.

Again though, Dark Forces Remaster still works for me. I can also recommend Jedi Knight 1 with the Remaster mod, as a great retro gaming experience. Doom is just too simplistic now, for me anyway.

Im totally the same, you even precisely said all games I love (except eternal that I like but don't really love)... But I do not find classic doom unplayable personally, I think it's really good still, doom 1 have a really good campaign, but you need to get used to it...

[Balder]

Publicado originalmente por OutSIdeOfTheBoX (chrisvig71):

Publicado originalmente por Balder:

As a historical game, sure. I remember playing this game as a kid with my friends on an old Intel computer and a CRT monitor, and being scared out of my mind. What a rush.

Unfortunately, now having access to shooters like Crysis 1-3, Doom Eternal, Resident Evil remakes, Half-Life etc., I just can't connect with these old games anymore.

Again though, Dark Forces Remaster still works for me. I can also recommend Jedi Knight 1 with the Remaster mod, as a great retro gaming experience. Doom is just too simplistic now, for me anyway.

Im totally the same, you even precisely said all games I love (except eternal that I like but don't really love)... But I do not find classic doom unplayable personally, I think it's really good still, doom 1 have a really good campaign, but you need to get used to it...

Nice! I still love playing Crysis 1 and 3 (Remastered). I really miss that type of game today, without all the timesinks and busywork (think Ubisoft). Just a great shooter with beautiful visuals, cool story and great gunplay. I guess STALKER 2 is among the closest, when they finally fix all the bugs...

It took a while to gel with Doom Eternal. A high quality HDR monitor makes the game come alive IMO. The visuals are key for the enjoyment of this game, since the horror and suspense element is weaker (more like an MCU version of Doom lol).

The visual design in Doom Eternal is stunning though, can't wait to see how The Dark Ages turns out... Slightly more grounded gameplay should be good, but hopefully ID doesn't go too far in the other direction. Something between Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal would be perfect, without floating platforms and all that nonsense.

[Unseen]

Well imo any dooms way more fun than dark forces. Darkforces is one of the most boring Star wars games I ever played. Seriously pewpew then aghh over and over again. How is this fun?

[Dead Pixel]

I love it still.

[Spikee1975]

Always in for a round of Chocolate Doom using classic controls (arrow keys and alt/ctrl). Reminds of how I first experienced it in the 90s.

And if you want Chocolate Doom to appear a bit smoother like on an old CRT monitor, change this entry in "chocolate-doom.cfg":

max_scaling_buffer_pixels 16000000 to 256000 (which renders the buffer at 640x400, and the linear hardware scaling to your native resolution will then smoothen the image. Try it :)