Doom 2 Censorship

[doomisforu2]

I finally starting playing Doom 2 in the Doom+Doom 2 bundle and noticed Censorship on the Wolfenstein Secret Levels. I don't know if the release before this was also Censored, but very disappointing.

[D4NUK1]

It's censored on this version, but still untouched on the DOS version.

[jemYZX]

Originally posted by doomisforu2:

I finally starting playing Doom 2 in the Doom+Doom 2 bundle and noticed Censorship on the Wolfenstein Secret Levels. I don't know if the release before this was also Censored, but very disappointing.

The Bethesda was also censored known as the 2019 version. DOS version is the only one that is uncensored. Get GZDoom.wad to get DOS Doom II the only way to play it.

[Cadaver747]

EDIT: There are 2 mods for use with KEX engine wads (widescreen support and achievements but multiplayer will not work for modified .wads):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3308298564

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3306815753

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That's how it is now. Doom 1 swastika in one level, red cross on medkits, and secret and super secret levels in Doom 2 - they all censored now. But you can always swap current .wads with original ones.

The method below with swapping .wads will corrupt the title and intermission screen, and other widescreen related stuff.

Current .wads default folder (in my case):
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Ultimate Doom\rerelease

Old .wads can be taken from
...\Ultimate Doom\base\
...\Ultimate Doom\base\doom2
...\Ultimate Doom\base\plutonia
...\Ultimate Doom\base\tnt
...\Ultimate Doom\base\master - it has several .wads instead of one

[Seamus]

It has been censored in every version since at least BFG edition. Or possibly xbox doom1/2.

This is not new.

This version is substantially LESS censored and also includes the original uncensored dos wads you can just drop into the re-release folder if you want.

[AmethystViper]

Originally posted by Seamus:

It has been censored in every version since at least BFG edition. Or possibly xbox doom1/2.

This is not new.

This version is substantially LESS censored and also includes the original uncensored dos wads you can just drop into the re-release folder if you want.

This. You can also do what I've been doing since the Unity port and edit them via SLADE to restore what was altered then use FLIPs to make BPS patches that can be applied into the newer official releases on PC for future reference, which provides the best of both worlds in my opinion (the original DOS version's content and assets into the newer port's engine with their updated widescreen assets).

[Gameo]

Originally posted by doomisforu2:

Originally posted by Cadaver747:

That's how it is now. Doom 1 swastika in one level, red cross on medkits, and secret and super secret levels in Doom 2 - they all censored now. But you can always swap current .wads with original ones.

Current .wads default folder (in my case):
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Ultimate Doom\rerelease

Old .wads can be taken from
...\Ultimate Doom\base\
...\Ultimate Doom\base\doom2
...\Ultimate Doom\base\plutonia
...\Ultimate Doom\base\tnt
...\Ultimate Doom\base\master

So this worked the only Problem is Master Level is like 10 Wad files were the new release is 1 wad file. can I just move them or do I need to merge them into 1 wad file?

https://mods.bethesda.net/en/doom_doomii/details/7c3fd854-0f09-44fb-8695-7e77845c72f4/Masterpack_for_Doom_II

[doomisforu2]

Originally posted by Cadaver747:

That's how it is now. Doom 1 swastika in one level, red cross on medkits, and secret and super secret levels in Doom 2 - they all censored now. But you can always swap current .wads with original ones.

Current .wads default folder (in my case):
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Ultimate Doom\rerelease

Old .wads can be taken from
...\Ultimate Doom\base\
...\Ultimate Doom\base\doom2
...\Ultimate Doom\base\plutonia
...\Ultimate Doom\base\tnt
...\Ultimate Doom\base\master

Thanks this worked!

[bliznots]

Originally posted by doomisforu2:

I finally starting playing Doom 2 in the Doom+Doom 2 bundle and noticed Censorship on the Wolfenstein Secret Levels. I don't know if the release before this was also Censored, but very disappointing.

Weird dude REALLY needs to see swastikas. Cool

[Chapa Costa]

even on the unity port they censored, but theres a mod you can install to bring back the swastika and hitler moustache on the picture

[Cadaver747]

My 2 cents: history should not be forgotten, the good and the bad parts of it.
Doom censorship is just plain stupid since we have swastikas in Wolfenstein games (and even Germany starting to accept older games intact). And yes, I know that we can swap the wads of use Slade editor. But lately more and more game re-releases are doing that to the originals, for instance Tomb Raider remake hide a *nude* picture even though they stated that everything will remain the same.

And I agree with those people who find modern censorship approach as an insult. Killing wild animals in Tomb Raider is fine but some little pixelated picture might offend someone's feelings, that's just makes no sense. BUT there is nothing we can do, unless gamers are going to start their own political party to gain some respect and recognition, but that would require something else like actually helping people with their problems in order to push the uncensorship act in old video games for historically accurate reasons.

[Wild Dog]

The censorship is not new. It's been like that since 2012 with the release of Doom 3 BFG.
After Doom 3 BFG every re release or update of the game this new version and the unity port was censored.

Originally posted by Unseen:

Its a dumb move they need to leave these old games alone, who cares? Bionic commando the last boss is hitler are we gonna change that too?

What are they gonna do next change mecha hitler in wolf to a different haircut and shave his mustache?


And no one is trying to praise the swastica, its suppose to be a villain banner, a nightmare banner no different than demons (well real demons, not just some guy who likes fictional cult stuff, in that regard the nazism is far more terrifying).

You would be amazed about the amount of people praising a swastica...
Look there is people watching The Boys that truly think that homelander is the good guy....

[Cadaver747]

Originally posted by Wild Dog:

Look there is people watching The Boys that truly think that homelander is the good guy....

Homelander is a complete narcissistic psycho. Definitely not a good guy, but I like him the most, maybe because he acts like a real person would act in that situation with all that powers and f@cked up childhood. Yet I don't like swastikas and / or fascists. I don't think it's even remotely related. And if you watched The Boys carefully you might have remembered the dialog between the Homelander and Stormfront where he denies her world domination *approach*. However it's much easier to call anything you don't like a "fascist".

[Lord Tony]

censorship is lame

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

i don't want to use anything.

i want to use the updated version with uncensored material. otherwise there is no point in updating these old games when everytime you ask for a feature or the "whole" unedited content some random on steam says:

play .wads.

you go and play wads.

seems like another ticket to bugthesda and nightdive is in order.

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

Originally posted by Lord_Tony_Prime TTV:

censorship is lame

+1