Zandronum...

[Wojak]

Zandronum's site looks pretty shady. Is it legit?

[Deadfall07]

It's legit I tell you whuat.

[[AU] Tabris:DarkPeace]

The site is legit but it is a fork of Skulltag which used to have a backdoor coupled with it, so I don't trust Zandronum or Skulltag and about half the DOOM community do not either.

That said half are playing it without major problems, but there are other source ports which have much better (read: OpenGL 3D) graphics than Zandronum.

[Wojak]

I am glad you told me that. The place just has that look of a shady site that would have malware included. I just want to know how I can play the Brutal Doom mod with one of my friends. Any idea?

[[AU] Tabris:DarkPeace]

Use GzDoom and host a server.
It may also work with DoomsDay Engine.

That said I have not tried Brutal Doom out yet.

[Wojak]

So GZDoom can host a server? Many people have told me that Zandronum was the only way or multiplayer. I would rather use GZDoom than a backdoor for multiplayer.

[[AU] Tabris:DarkPeace]

Zandronum is certainly not the only way to host a server.
DoomsDay Engine is the easiest.
- http://dengine.net/windows

Or Odamex...

[DregSmoker Dixie]

I have absolutely no idea what this false maleware thing is about. I've used skulltag for over 8 years and I've been using Zandronum since version 0.4

Zandronum is just another Doomer forum. GZDoom is my port of choice as of late for offline games, but I've used Zandronum for multiplayer, and believe me, it is certainly quite safe.

Odamex is free and I think brutal doom can work on that as well. Otherwise you could use best.ever for hosting servers, but be prepared to see be adds on that server.

[[AU] Tabris:DarkPeace]

It's not a false malware issue, nothing detected a virus or trojan within it, they just implemented a backdoor into Skulltag so the developers could enable god mode on anyones server for themselves, etc.

Zandronum is based on the Skulltag source code (it is effectively a fork, although it is more a continuation under a different name as they shamed the Skulltag name pubically) and neither of them meet the legal GPL requirements of disclosing the source code to the community (so it can be checked for hacks, cheats, backdoors, torojans, viruses, etc.) --- as such many gamers (that abide by the GPL) do not like running either Skulltag or Zandronum.

The backdoor stuff that was known was bad enough, question is "What else did the backdoor permit?" (e.g. running admin NT cmd prompt commands in the background, etc?).

No-one knows as they never disclosed the source code which both the DOOM and GPL licenses enforce them to do --- they just skirt around and do not open their source code.


Pretty pathetic if you ask me, especially as they got caught with a WORKING BACK DOOR in SKULLTAGs SOURCE CODE! (One that no virus scanner or malware tool will detect).

[DregSmoker Dixie]

That was going to be my next point on touching upon.

While the back door is indeed a valid point, it should be reminded that the staff that works on Zandronum is not fully the same staff that worked on Skulltag, as well as the original staff of SkullTag "grew up" and work on Wrack now anyway.

regardless, Odamex is the only thing I use anymore for online play for Doom. Well besides ZDaemon

[hcoop111]

I use it and i have no viruses from it brutal doom rules z_z

[hcoop111]

also even if it did chances are alottttt of mod sites will give a virus lol... want free..oh heres a free virus w it :):P

[[AU] Tabris:DarkPeace]

A backdoor is not a virus...

[Wojak]

Short answer is that Zandronum is bad. (Mr Garrison)

[''Y'']

Originally posted by Hank Hill:

Short answer is that Zandronum is bad. (Mr Garrison)

Mr. Garrison? Don't you mean Mr. Mackey?

[Wojak]

No. I mean Mr Garrison. The way he talks. Not referring to "mkay."