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Is doomguy a proper name for the protagonist?
Like doom was suppose to be the situation, like everyone was doomed. But doomguy seems like an odd choice for his name, considering. Does he even have a real name?
Originally posted by Freedoom Marine:
Benakenobi, perfectly 200% correct, i don't believe you knew that fact, Doomguy is not what you call the player marine at all, the marine is called the Space Marine or the UAC Marine as a nickname. Doomguy is only artificially made up nonsense by the online internet Doom community. The Space Marines real name in the PC canon Doom series was mentioned and released only once in the first ever Doom development interview on television in 1992 by Tom Hall as he went over his bit about the Doom Bible while playtesting Doom Knee Deep In The Dead right before its official release would come in 1993, which the space marines name is Dylan Flinders Petersen(Even despite using Dwayne Hicks or Michael Biehn regarding the space marines inspirations from Aliens). I do have a facebook page with lots of neat Doom stuff and information if you need anything further on any of it, https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.j.shearman
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Seamus Apr 2 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by AWMonopolyMan:
Originally posted by Rage Of S'Kinrai:
AWMonopolyman, The Doomguy is not official correct, John Romero took the nickname from the internet Doom communities nonsense and tried to make something out of it, and to be logical, you shouldn't trust a formerly fired company patron anyways that almost ruined the production of Quake. If you do further accurate inspection, you even tell me ONCE, where Doomguy is mentioned as Petersens nickname in any official archive or patent made by the company...RIGHT! It all says Space Marine, UAC Marine, or soldier, or just marine. Right, and their you go, using your noodle, you will get a eureka sooner or later.

Considering the name Doom Guy is referenced as a potential name in Eternal by a news broadcaster, that's more than whatever name you were trying to use that's not referenced in any of the games.
It's also used in the subtitles in eternal in several places.
AWMonopolyman the Doom 64 Marine is Dwayne Hicks from Aliens, the credits are in Dooms inspirational material and archives as well as right on the cover(Notice the D64 Space Marines perfect resemblance to Michael Biehn, this was done just the same as Metal Gear was Solid Snake was crafted around Michael Biehn, as the same for Paul in the Ikari Warriors).

Seamus, Doom III is a reboot of Doom, it hasn't anything to do with the Classic Dooms existance, storyline, or elements, its like it, existed and happened in another dimension buddy, if anyone asked Corporal Dylan Flinders Petersen, about the Hell On Mars operations, he'd give you the confused look and tell someone, i don't recall that ever existing, get it now what it means? This patent element or procedure goes for the new Doom as well, Doom 2016, Doom Eternal, Doom Dark Ages.
Seamus Apr 2 @ 4:03pm 
Originally posted by Rage Of S'Kinrai:
the Doom 64 Marine is Dwayne Hicks
No, it's not. Looking vaguely like him does not make them the same person.

It is canonically the same guy as doom, doom 2, doom 2016 and doom eternal.

I don't care if you don't like that fact, but that's how it is.

Seamus, Doom III is a reboot of Doom, it hasn't anything to do with the Classic Dooms
I never said it did. I said EXCEPT for Doom 3, all doom guys are the same guy.

I'm not bothering with the rest of that rambling because it has nothing to do with the point.
Originally posted by Rage Of S'Kinrai:
AWMonopolyman the Doom 64 Marine is Dwayne Hicks from Aliens, the credits are in Dooms inspirational material and archives as well as right on the cover(Notice the D64 Space Marines perfect resemblance to Michael Biehn, this was done just the same as Metal Gear was Solid Snake was crafted around Michael Biehn, as the same for Paul in the Ikari Warriors).

Seamus, Doom III is a reboot of Doom, it hasn't anything to do with the Classic Dooms existance, storyline, or elements, its like it, existed and happened in another dimension buddy, if anyone asked Corporal Dylan Flinders Petersen, about the Hell On Mars operations, he'd give you the confused look and tell someone, i don't recall that ever existing, get it now what it means? This patent element or procedure goes for the new Doom as well, Doom 2016, Doom Eternal, Doom Dark Ages.

"The ending screen for The Lost Levels directly quotes the Slayer's Testament regarding him, suggesting that it was at this time that his one-man war against Hell began in earnest as he chose to follow the "path of perpetual torment.""

Also considering Doom Eternal has a reference to every armor he had (besides Doom 3 to my knowledge) (which is classic Doom 1, Doom 2 boxart, Doom 64 & Doom 2016), it's easy to see him as the same guy in those instances.
Seamus Apr 2 @ 4:08pm 
Would also help to actually read the doom 64 manua;
Your fatigue was enormous, the price for encountering pure evil. Hell was a place no mortal was meant to experience. Stupid military doctors: their tests and treatments, were of little help. In the end, what did it matter - it was all classified and sealed. The nightmares continued. Demons, so many Demons; relentless, pouring through.

Far Away...

The planetary policy was clear. An absolute quarantine was guaranteed by apocalyptic levels of radiation. The empty dark corridors stand motionless, abandoned. The installations sealed.

The Present...

A long forgotten relay satellite barely executing, decayed by years of bombarding neutrons, activates and sends its final message to Earth. The satellites message was horrific, from the planetary void there came energy signatures unlike anything sampled before.

The classified archives are opened. The military episodes code named "DOOM" were not actually completed. A single entity with vast rejuvenation powers, masked by the extreme radiation levels, escaped detection. In its crippled state, it systematically altered decaying dead carnage back into corrupted living tissue.
The mutations are devastating. The Demons have returned even stronger and more vicious than before. As the only experienced survivor of the DOOM episode, your commission is re-activated. Your assignment is clear: MERCILESS EXTERMINATION.

Hicks never fought demons.
Seamus, all the Space Marines are not the same freaking person! They all have different features their different people! Doom 3 the first marine is more Polish, the second is more german looking and sorta resembles Dave Taylor!

Alpha Doom " Buddy Dacote "- Is not even shown in the game or any other patents, otherwise as the player sprite resemblance in the Doom Bible by Tom Hall. He wears a hat that says B.E.O.S.(Standing for the Butt End Of Space), and it is implemented he resembles something about Mister Rogers " Sears and Roebuck reference " inpirational elements to Doom and most of the Space Marines throughout patents, reboots, and canon series.

Doom I/Doom II/Ultimate Doom " Dylan Flinders Petersen "- Is German featured, as his middle name, Is also a German name(sort of a connection here).

PSX Doom/Final Doom(TNT Evilution and the Plutonia Experiment) " Jimmy Lee and a offspring clone of William BJ Blazcowicz "- As Jimmy Lee from POW by SNK is promoted on the front cover of the PSX Original Doom spinoff by Team TNT's partership with ID Software, the real actual player marine is the Commander of UAC, which is associated with Flynn Taggart for the spinoff super installment, supposedly it revolves around Dooms best known fan, the Action Geek of Leo(This is reference with John Carmack), has a more deeper eloquent featured impression, a stimulating more slight west german look, if you look closely, you will notice the difference.

Doom 64 " Dwayne Hicks "- Resembles even closer to action star Michael Biehn, again does have a german look, this has to do with the Doom Space Marines inspiration from him regarded with Aliens. The manual bit, let me explain something to you, Doom is known for having poor innovation, lots of the manual content is patented for extravaganza and enthusiastic introductory or just plain fascinating laughs to get the fans blood moving for the game, AND NOT ONCE, AGAIN, do you see Doomguy, Buddy Dacote, John Kane, or Doomslayer! Do you see it!? Tell me if im goin blind, cause im sure im not bud, last time i checked i have perfect 20 20 vision bud.

Doom III " Hell On Mars Elianore Quasar "- This marine infantry guy Todd Hollenshed called Elianore Quasar in the dev interview is sorta Polish extreme, as his hair, IS BLACK! Not brown like Dylan Petersen...BLACK!

Doom III " ROE specialist Pooey "- This specialist name is addressed by one of the squad members in the intro cutscene where they blast their way through with explosives, which is Pooey, listen closely, and you'll hear it addressed to the player marine, you gotta follow him though.

Doom 2016 " Spaniard Soldier "- The first Doomslayer is a spanish guy, DEFINANTLY NO IDENTITY RELATION TO ANY OTHERS, unless you wanna say the Doom Space Marine was a shapeshifter, like oh please, how mundane is that right.

Doom Eternal " Neal armstrong look alike "- This second Doomslayer, seems to resemble something like famous American astronaut, Neal Armstrong.

Doom Dark Ages " ? "- This one is totally mysterious, i doubt hes the spaniard or the Neal Armstrong look alike.
Seamus Apr 2 @ 5:01pm 
Originally posted by Rage Of S'Kinrai:
Seamus, all the Space Marines are not the same freaking person!
The one in Doom, Doom 2, Doom 64, Doom 2016, Doom Eternal and Doom Dark Ages are all the same guy.

This is canon.

This is fact.

Doom 3 has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation. Stop bringing it up.
Doom/Doom II/Ulimate Doom you forgot, yes, and is Dylan Flinders Petersen as was mentioned by Tom Hall, which the Alpha Doom marine was originally was going to be Dylan Flinders Petersen and put in the manual, Hall changed it to Buddy Dacote and gave it to the PC Ultimate Doom UAC Marine instead.

Doom 64, is Dwayne Hicks from aliens, its right in the inspiration credits for Doom, you can also nickname most Doom Player Space Marines, Dwayne Hicks or Michael Biehn regarded with his inspiration to Dooms player characters.

Doom 2016, is a spanish looking guy with a deep brownish tan skin color, NO DEAL HERE, is not Corporal Petersen(Aka the Fireant), Dwayne Hicks from D64, or the Eternal Doomslayer, HE IS THE SPANIARD NEO-DOOMSLAYER, the first of the new Doom reboot franchise.

Dark Ages goes way back into prelude era and chronicles before even Doom 2016, is most likely a totally different character that still has yet to be revealed.
Seamus Apr 2 @ 5:33pm 
Originally posted by Rage Of S'Kinrai:
Doom/Doom II/Ulimate Doom you forgot
No, I didn't.
Originally posted by Seamus:
The one in Doom, Doom 2,
Doom and Ultimate Doom are the same game.

They're all the same guy.
Yerp, correct, perfectly correct, and here, just to show you that my discoveries and Doom research is all perfectly 200% correct, check this Doom comic out, follow the link below,

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/56/f1/c8/56f1c8a5d94582d0dc8cdad0ce2ef433.jpg
Originally posted by Rage Of S'Kinrai:
Dark Ages goes way back into prelude era and chronicles before even Doom 2016, is most likely a totally different character that still has yet to be revealed.

Dark Ages is basically Doom Guy/Doom Slayer during his time in the Night Sentinels (which was teased and hinted at in Eternal) he also gets to use the mech (similarly teased in Eternal) as well as get to fly Dragons (Teased in the TAG 2 DLC for Eternal), it is quite literally the same guy, he even has a picture of him and his pet Rabbit Daisy in the Fortress of Doom, as well as a version of the Unmaker (Unmaykr) in addition to his Classic Doom Suit and his Doom 2016 suit you can get as well in that same Fortress. You even can find Vinyl records throughout the levels that reference various ID games (and other Doom games). He's also had at least a Rocket Launcher, Chaingun, Shotgun, SSG (Super Shotgun), Plasma Rifle and BFG by his side in all of his canon appearances (also a Chainsaw), the only weapon he dropped was the Pistol in Eternal and kind of his fists in 2016 and Eternal (except when he using a Berserk powerup in those games).
Originally posted by Rage Of S'Kinrai:
Yerp, correct, perfectly correct, and here, just to show you that my discoveries and Doom research is all perfectly 200% correct, check this Doom comic out, follow the link below,

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/56/f1/c8/56f1c8a5d94582d0dc8cdad0ce2ef433.jpg

Most of what you list (besides the Doom novels and comics loosely in Eternal with Flynn Taggart as the password to access that version of Doom 2 and the Big Guts line respectively) is not canon to any of the games whatsoever.
Seamus Apr 2 @ 5:54pm 
Originally posted by Rage Of S'Kinrai:
Yerp, correct, perfectly correct, and here, just to show you that my discoveries and Doom research is all perfectly 200% correct, check this Doom comic out, follow the link below,

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/56/f1/c8/56f1c8a5d94582d0dc8cdad0ce2ef433.jpg
Your discoveries don't mean anything. There is absolutely nothing saying doomguy's name is dylan except someone whose work was almost entirely removed from the franchise and didn't even last through doom 1's development.
Right, correct, thats exactly what i went over.

Flynn Peter Taggart " The Catholic Feminist cooler version of the Doom Space Marine " is associated with The PSX Final Doom Commander, and the PSX Doom partnership installment with Team TNT is non canon. The Final Doom Commander also has other associable identities, can be named William Blazcowizc, Billy Blaze, Billy Lee Blaze(Regarding the Doom Marines inspiration from Billy&Jimmy Lee in Double Dragon, as the hud mugshot facial behaviour is inspired from the computer ported Target Renegade) , or Blazcowizc III.

As for Doom 64, is inspired by the PSX Doom series, is not canon either, most games for N64 were made for spinoff material to franchises, here,

PC Doom- Must be canon then.

Sega Saturn/Playstation Doom- Must be non canon then.

Doom 64- Must be spinoff material then, it has all of PSX Dooms elements, stimulating aesthetic sound effects to the seratonin response, the sense of the marines urgency for survival, and the adventurous storyline of progressing thrill, the only difference is the player hud, which disallows to show the space marine, as is shown on the cover as a clone that looks differently like Dawyne Hicks from aliens, one of Doom Marines top inspirations to the franchise and ID Software(Bonus note: Michael Biehns inspiration also is also associated with the Quake Marine protagonists, Ranger, Bitterman, Sarge, Mathew Kane ect.).
This has to be trolling
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