This KEX port of Doom is ridiculous.

[Dimik]

This KEX port of Doom is ridiculous. It offers neither a pure keyboard control nor a free mouse look. Who are they trying to appeal to? It satisfies neither old-school nor modern gamers.

[Thermal Lance]

I'm happy with it personally. So, I guess they we're trying to appeal to me.

[Kaizen]

No accurate port is going to give you mouse look because it breaks certain maps. Get over it and use something that gives you what you want.
The port is very clearly not for old school pc doomers. More of a console thing that they gave you for free if you owned a prior copy.

[Dimik]

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

I'm happy with it personally. So, I guess they we're trying to appeal to me.

Good for you. But the point is did this port give you any added value over the Unity version or the classic?

[Thermal Lance]

Originally posted by Dimik:

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

I'm happy with it personally. So, I guess they we're trying to appeal to me.

Good for you. But the point is did this port give you any added value over the Unity version or the classic?

Working multiplayer out of the box.

[Dimik]

Originally posted by Gameo:

No accurate port is going to give you mouse look because it breaks certain maps.

Not really. Vertical freelook and vertical auto-aim are two separate things.

[Kaizen]

Originally posted by Dimik:

Originally posted by Gameo:

No accurate port is going to give you mouse look because it breaks certain maps.

Not really. Vertical freelook and vertical auto-aim are two separate things.

Yes but you said free look which breaks some maps. It would certainly make Icon a pointless fight when you could just stand there and aim rockets

[bobbie424242]

Also using vertical freelook without disabling vertical auto-aim kind of defeat the purpose and is a bit silly.

[GamerXT]

Originally posted by Gameo:

It would certainly make Icon a pointless fight when you could just stand there and aim rockets

Wouldn't rockets auto aim regardless ?

[Thermal Lance]

Originally posted by GamerXT:

Originally posted by Gameo:

It would certainly make Icon a pointless fight when you could just stand there and aim rockets

Wouldn't rockets auto aim regardless ?

Not with the icon of sin.

The "Target" is not in direct line of sight. The reason why you use rockets is for the splash damage.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by Dimik:

This KEX port of Doom is ridiculous. It offers neither a pure keyboard control nor a free mouse look. Who are they trying to appeal to? It satisfies neither old-school nor modern gamers.

Way too many people have been asking for unreasonable requests.

The keyboard part is stupid. The Quake Remasters have it. It should be included. Contact Nightdive Studios and put in a request. It needs to be put back.



However,

Classic Doom did not have mouse look. You have the original wads for it here:
C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Ultimate Doom\base

Install your mouse look Doom source port of choice, plug in the wad that you want and that the game already has that you're freaking out about and go nuts.

If you want this new release to have mouse look then go find John Romero and John Carmack on Twitter / X and bother them for it. They're the reason that didn't happen 31 years ago. I'm sure you'll be met kindly with your request (lol).

[Rich9837]

the bigger issue is the lag. currently Doom 2016 runs smoother than Doom 1 lol

[X]

Unity port was very low res, this one is buttery smooth in 4k

[Ferk]

Originally posted by Dimik:

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

I'm happy with it personally. So, I guess they we're trying to appeal to me.

Good for you. But the point is did this port give you any added value over the Unity version or the classic?

Official Boom support, official MBF21 support, a whole new format (ID24) for wads with extra features (new weapons, possibility of custom pickups, new configuration lumps in json, etc.) a whole new episode (Legacy of the Rust) making use of some of the new features included with new monsters, a wad browser with community uploads, an "id vault" with new never ever released content with sketches and pieces of history from the original development of Doom....

And I'm sure I'm forgetting things.

[Dimik]

Originally posted by bobbie424242:

Also using vertical freelook without disabling vertical auto-aim kind of defeat the purpose and is a bit silly.

Actually, it was a very common setting in 90s 2,5D FPSs.

[Dimik]

Originally posted by GamerXT:

Originally posted by Gameo:

It would certainly make Icon a pointless fight when you could just stand there and aim rockets

Wouldn't rockets auto aim regardless ?

You're right. That's exactly why I'm emphasizing that vertical freelook and vertical auto-aim are two distinct things.