Archviles are broken

[mrstuped]

These ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ resurrect corpses regardless if something is in the way. They can trap enemies in a blob if they resurrect multiple in the same spot, they can even unfairly trap the player and even trap themselves, allowing you to just punch him to death. It's ridiculous how many archvile fights I've accidently cheesed (over 80% at least) just by the archvile trapping himself like an idiot.

[RameyNoodles]

Publicado originalmente por BlueCollarFurry:

Welcome to Doom

There's a reason Archviles are one of the most hated classic enemies and it's because they're so OP they're basically minibosses

I see yet another person that literally didnt read what OP said at all. Shame on you. 👎

[Brandon]

Publicado originalmente por mrstuped:

Archviles are broken

Counterpoint: Archviles are token

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cIePqdz03A

[Snufflegrunt]

Publicado originalmente por RameyNoodles:

Publicado originalmente por BlueCollarFurry:

Welcome to Doom

There's a reason Archviles are one of the most hated classic enemies and it's because they're so OP they're basically minibosses

I see yet another person that literally didnt read what OP said at all. Shame on you. 👎

They're just not reading beyond the first post. The first post does make it sound like OP is new to Doom. He even admitted that he worded it poorly.

[Renaissance Eric]

Nah they're not broken. Broken would be if they were capable of resurrecting
other Archviles or boss monsters (good lord how unfair would that be).

Archviles are there to shake up the combat and make you think on your feet
as opposed to just mindlessly holding down the shoot button at whatever's
in front of you. They still can get hurt by other demon projectiles, and they
aren't nearly as tanky as Barons of Hell are.

They're tough but fair imo.

[^3PeePeeSellsButWhoBuying]

Publicado originalmente por Renaissance Eric:

Nah they're not broken. Broken would be if they were capable of resurrecting
other Archviles or boss monsters (good lord how unfair would that be).

Archviles are there to shake up the combat and make you think on your feet
as opposed to just mindlessly holding down the shoot button at whatever's
in front of you. They still can get hurt by other demon projectiles, and they
aren't nearly as tanky as Barons of Hell are.

They're tough but fair imo.

The issue isn't that they're difficult, the issue is that they're resurrecting monsters inside the player or themselves, getting them stuck.

How did so many people just jump into this thread and ignore the OP? lol

[Trov]

OP, are you seeing this behavior in Doom 2 or Final Doom stock levels? Or is it wads from the mod browser?

[Moderator Abuse]

Publicado originalmente por Trov:

OP, are you seeing this behavior in Doom 2 or Final Doom stock levels? Or is it wads from the mod browser?

Happens because of the way Kex is handling them.

[mrstuped]

Publicado originalmente por Snufflegrunt:

Publicado originalmente por RameyNoodles:

I see yet another person that literally didnt read what OP said at all. Shame on you. 👎

They're just not reading beyond the first post. The first post does make it sound like OP is new to Doom. He even admitted that he worded it poorly.

I thought I worded it fine, but judging by the replies clearly not T_T

[mrstuped]

Publicado originalmente por Trov:

OP, are you seeing this behavior in Doom 2 or Final Doom stock levels? Or is it wads from the mod browser?

I've only played through Legacy of Rust

[tcassat]

Publicado originalmente por Snufflegrunt:

Publicado originalmente por RameyNoodles:

I see yet another person that literally didnt read what OP said at all. Shame on you. 👎

They're just not reading beyond the first post. The first post does make it sound like OP is new to Doom. He even admitted that he worded it poorly.

But the first sentence of the OP already tells us exactly what the problem is: they're resurrecting enemies without caring if there's anything in the way, and this is literally the bug. What's happening is that some players didn't notice the bug in the game so they didn't realize that the first sentence is a literal description of a bug and not just a figure of speech or something, LOL.

[Dosto]

Always has been, and that's why we love him.

[RameyNoodles]

Publicado originalmente por Snufflegrunt:

Publicado originalmente por RameyNoodles:

I see yet another person that literally didnt read what OP said at all. Shame on you. 👎

They're just not reading beyond the first post. The first post does make it sound like OP is new to Doom. He even admitted that he worded it poorly.

The first post is literally the point that everyone is skipping over. They're NOT EVEN reading the first post. It wasn't worded poorly. It's quite clear that OP is complaining about buggy behaviour that was not normally present in Doom.

[Snufflegrunt]

Publicado originalmente por RameyNoodles:

Publicado originalmente por Snufflegrunt:

They're just not reading beyond the first post. The first post does make it sound like OP is new to Doom. He even admitted that he worded it poorly.

The first post is literally the point that everyone is skipping over. They're NOT EVEN reading the first post. It wasn't worded poorly. It's quite clear that OP is complaining about buggy behaviour that was not normally present in Doom.

No even the OP said that "maybe it was poorly worded". At first it sounded like OP was complaining about Arch-Viles as an enemy, not how they're implemented in this port. They've always been a bit jank in vanilla-ish ports.