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knootewoot Aug 23, 2024 @ 9:02am
Halleluja, i found a way to have the red crosses back on medpacks in rerelease
Just copy the original WAD which everyone should have from disk or CD and copy it in the folder SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Ultimate Doom\rerelease
BAM, away with the ugly green crosses and back the red crosses of the medkits.
/cheer
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goctexas Aug 23, 2024 @ 9:34am 
Neat. Cant believe people let the red cross bully them
AWMonopolyMan Aug 23, 2024 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by knootewoot:
Just copy the original WAD which everyone should have from disk or CD and copy it in the folder SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Ultimate Doom\rerelease
BAM, away with the ugly green crosses and back the red crosses of the medkits.
/cheer

There is also UncookedMoa’s mod packs for a bunch of the included releases here (minus Legacy of Rust, No Rest for the Living and Sigil) that brings back red crosses as well
Brandon Aug 23, 2024 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by goctexas:
Neat. Cant believe people let the red cross bully them

This is one of those laws that makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

"It is often vital for aid workers that the Red Cross is identified and respected as an aid organisation."

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1989513/did-you-know-that-this-symbol-is-forbidden-in-video-games.html

"Yeah, so I was in my war-torn country and I desperately needed food and shelter and I saw this organization with this big red-colored cross thing and it made me remember a video game and obviously I could not respect those guys so I didn't get any food or shelter and I died."
Ikagura Aug 23, 2024 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by Brandon:
Originally posted by goctexas:
Neat. Cant believe people let the red cross bully them

This is one of those laws that makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

"It is often vital for aid workers that the Red Cross is identified and respected as an aid organisation."

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1989513/did-you-know-that-this-symbol-is-forbidden-in-video-games.html

"Yeah, so I was in my war-torn country and I desperately needed food and shelter and I saw this organization with this big red-colored cross thing and it made me remember a video game and obviously I could not respect those guys so I didn't get any food or shelter and I died."
Radioactive and Biohazard symbols were used out of their respective context because they looked cool yet there was no enforcement of the law about using them outside of the appropriate context yet the Red Cross is seen as forbidden.

Also why in Middle Eastern countries they use the Red Crescent? It's not even a christian cross.
Mupinstienika Aug 23, 2024 @ 12:01pm 
Works! Thank you!
Marco Aug 23, 2024 @ 12:06pm 
Originally posted by knootewoot:
Just copy the original WAD which everyone should have from disk or CD and copy it in the folder SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Ultimate Doom\rerelease
BAM, away with the ugly green crosses and back the red crosses of the medkits.
/cheer
And you also bring the NIN logo back to E4M1 this way. :steamthumbsup:
fbbraganca Aug 23, 2024 @ 12:17pm 
does it messes up multiplayer?
DireSpawn Aug 23, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by Brandon:
Originally posted by goctexas:
Neat. Cant believe people let the red cross bully them

This is one of those laws that makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

"It is often vital for aid workers that the Red Cross is identified and respected as an aid organisation."

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1989513/did-you-know-that-this-symbol-is-forbidden-in-video-games.html

"Yeah, so I was in my war-torn country and I desperately needed food and shelter and I saw this organization with this big red-colored cross thing and it made me remember a video game and obviously I could not respect those guys so I didn't get any food or shelter and I died."

You know if anything, wouldn't the symbol in video games help people recognize it as something you go towards in time of need? Namsayin?
Slave New World Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:09pm 
Originally posted by fbbraganca:
does it messes up multiplayer?
no
Seamus Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:12pm 
Originally posted by RσႦιƙα:
Originally posted by fbbraganca:
does it messes up multiplayer?
no
Apparently it does mess with matchmaking, actually. Looks like they use the md5 hash of the wad so you'd only get matched with other pc players who have swapped to the dos wads.
Crashed Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:15pm 
Originally posted by Seamus:
Originally posted by RσႦιƙα:
no
Apparently it does mess with matchmaking, actually. Looks like they use the md5 hash of the wad so you'd only get matched with other pc players who have swapped to the dos wads.
Perhaps making a PWAD of only the altered sprites would work? By the way MD5 is horribly broken and should never be used for any security purposes, only SHA256 or better.
Seamus Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:23pm 
Maybe they use sha256 then. You get the point of what I meant. You're matched up based on identifying the wad by more than just the name.
DireSpawn Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:24pm 
Someone needs to replace the swastikas with the red cross and the swastikas get put on the health packs for the lulz.
Ikagura Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by DireSpawn:
Someone needs to replace the swastikas with the red cross and the swastikas get put on the health packs for the lulz.
How to commit two crimes at once.
V I D A L Aug 23, 2024 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by Brandon:
Originally posted by goctexas:
Neat. Cant believe people let the red cross bully them

This is one of those laws that makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

"It is often vital for aid workers that the Red Cross is identified and respected as an aid organisation."

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1989513/did-you-know-that-this-symbol-is-forbidden-in-video-games.html

"Yeah, so I was in my war-torn country and I desperately needed food and shelter and I saw this organization with this big red-colored cross thing and it made me remember a video game and obviously I could not respect those guys so I didn't get any food or shelter and I died."
It's not a law, though. It's a respectful courtesy not to use it anymore and patch it out if you have used in older games.

But there are still games, in rare cases, using red crosses. Nobody is forbidden from using it.

I don't think you can get sued or anything if you decide you wanna use a red cross in your game.

It's more of a "moral" ground than a "legal" one.
Last edited by V I D A L; Aug 23, 2024 @ 2:17pm
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