Surprised that AVGN did Doom before Daikatana.

[Electric Cupcake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5zyhC11hzQ

Although James-senpai did talk about Daikatana in a James and Mike episode.

At any rate, the story behind 3DO Doom is even more interesting than James let on. The CEO had no idea what porting a game really entailed and made impossible demands, so it's actually impressive that the game turned out as well as it did, considering.

However, the CEO was also a decent musician, and personally helped record the new OST with his garage band. https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/3dops-soundtrack

[SuperFly]

I was just talking earlier today, about his struggles to reclaim relevance after the Monster Madness plagiarism scandal. Good for James Rolfe.

[Hunter_ARG]

For me he's just an idiot

[Thermal Lance]

Can't blame him. Even if my job was playing ♥♥♥♥ games, I wouldnt be in a hurry for Daikatana. That thing is insulting to the core.

[SuperFly]

He keeps talking about the music, but refuses to name composer Bobby Prince at any point...
That's some serious shade, and unnecessarily dismissive.

At least he addresses the lost FMV scenes -- from which the rubber monster costumes and entire endeavor spawned the earliest "eyewitness" rumors of what folks believed to be the DOOM movie, at the time.

[Shallex]

kinda surprising to me that he never did doom before

[SuperFly]

Originally posted by Shallex:

kinda surprising to me that he never did doom before

It was worth the wait, because AVGN was able to cover everything here -- and I don't think he was set up to do so until more recently. There had only been brief mentions & highlights when covering specific systems, in the past.

[SuperFly]

Has anyone out there recovered any of the 3DO FMV footage??
It certainly has to exist, somewhere... Rebecca Heineman would be the one to ask, but she's already been on speaking engagements for the development, and hasn't offered anything but still images:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_do6lL7ueQ

I recall reporting on the account of a stuntman who worked on the FMV -- and he spoke mostly about how the stilts used for the hooves on the Baron of Hell costume caused some foot injury and bleeding.

[GHOSTIE_NSG]

Originally posted by SuperFly:

I was just talking earlier today, about his struggles to reclaim relevance after the Monster Madness plagiarism scandal. Good for James Rolfe.

It's after 5:40 so Bimmy needs to take care of his muh kids. "Do you want him to suffer?"

[SuperFly]

Originally posted by GHOSTIE_NSG:

Originally posted by SuperFly:

I was just talking earlier today, about his struggles to reclaim relevance after the Monster Madness plagiarism scandal. Good for James Rolfe.

It's after 5:40 so Bimmy needs to take care of his muh kids. "Do you want him to suffer?"

That crew really screwed Rolfe over by riding his coattails until they fell off.
He had his own hand in it all going off the rails, too, but suffering some amount of burnout is completely justifiable after doing things on his own for so long. Those clowns were workers, and hardly 'collaborators' by any stretch.

This re-invigoration as he takes back control of his brands feels very much like art, again.

I definitely hope the best for him -- his internet celebrity pre-dates the ample opportunities to capitalize on it.

[GHOSTIE_NSG]

Originally posted by SuperFly:

Originally posted by GHOSTIE_NSG:

It's after 5:40 so Bimmy needs to take care of his muh kids. "Do you want him to suffer?"

That crew really screwed Rolfe over by riding his coattails until they fell off.
He had his own hand in it all going off the rails, too, but suffering some amount of burnout is completely justifiable after doing things on his own for so long. Those clowns were workers, and hardly 'collaborators' by any stretch.

This re-invigoration as he takes back control of his brands feels very much like art, again.

I definitely hope the best for him -- his internet celebrity pre-dates the ample opportunities to capitalize on it.

Yeah, the Slobwave Media scrounges screwed him over, however these days James' biggest enemy seems to be himself, he's always ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about how he "doesn't have any time". and the one instance this year where he made himself some time was the "mowden" trip, and he made a huge laughing stock out of himself during it. so Idk if he has what it takes anymore, the last great episode was the Earthbound one, and that was years ago.

[KiRA]

Originally posted by SuperFly:

He keeps talking about the music, but refuses to name composer Bobby Prince at any point...
That's some serious shade, and unnecessarily dismissive.

Thats because Prince just took numerous bands music and ported it into a midi format.
Having a lawyer past he knew exactly what he could or couldnt get away.

[SuperFly]

Originally posted by KiRA (BLZ):

Originally posted by SuperFly:

He keeps talking about the music, but refuses to name composer Bobby Prince at any point...

Thats because Prince just took numerous bands music and ported it into a midi format.
Having a lawyer past he knew exactly what he could or couldnt get away.

So, you're saying nobody suffered damages or losses -- and the game got a soundtrack to (still) rave about.

Originally posted by SuperFly:

That's some serious shade, and unnecessarily dismissive.

Especially coming from a noted plagiarist like James Rolfe? (https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2021/10/05/the-cinemassacre-monster-plagiarism-scandal/)

[Gunslinger ☢]

James admitted that he would have ended AVGN in 2018 if it wasnt for Screenwave helping production, which has been ongoing burnout since the AVGN movie (the co-director of the movie corroborates this claim) due to lack of fanfare from the general populace on release, basically completely crushing his dream of becoming a known filmmaker outside the youtube circle, which he always had a bigger passion for in regards to movies over games, that and Mike co-wrote most of his older work and since his departure from Cinemassacre, has never really recovered quality/taste wise.

The plagiarist stuff is also from someone at Screenwave, not Rolfe directly, the person in question has since been discovered by combing the credits of their previous work which also has some plagiarism in it ontop of being credited in the video in question, its just that people want to point at either Screenwave as a whole or James because the older fans have gotten incredibly toxic over current affairs.

[KiRA]

Originally posted by SuperFly:

Originally posted by KiRA (BLZ):

Thats because Prince just took numerous bands music and ported it into a midi format.
Having a lawyer past he knew exactly what he could or couldnt get away.

So, you're saying nobody suffered damages or losses -- and the game got a soundtrack to (still) rave about.

The point is he didnt compose original music but simply altered it. Just as Kenji Yamamoto did for the Budokai series which took years to catch up. So i think its fair that the Nerd didnt credit someone who does not deserve credit ,unlike the actual bands.

[Shallex]

Originally posted by KiRA (BLZ):

Originally posted by SuperFly:

So, you're saying nobody suffered damages or losses -- and the game got a soundtrack to (still) rave about.

The point is he didnt compose original music but simply altered it. Just as Kenji Yamamoto did for the Budokai series which took years to catch up. So i think its fair that the Nerd didnt credit someone who does not deserve credit ,unlike the actual bands.

prince composed plenty of original music for the doom games