Leveling battleframes individually is killing the game for me

[MADAO]

I never played in the beta. I wanted to try out Firefall because the battleframe concept sounded promising. I relish the idea of collecting a broad array of different battleframes and use specific ones for different situations. There is even a portable battleframe station in the game for changing on the fly.

Imagine my surprise when I discovered I have to level each battleframe separately, in essentially the same campaign on the same map doing the same things. Nevermind the grind to get the licenses for new battleframe. Even if I buy one for $12.50, I still have to spend dozens of hours to level it to end game, assuming I even reach end game. That costs WAY MORE than $12.50 for anyone who works, even at minimum wage. I can understand a few hours of crash training to become familiar with a new battleframe, but separate leveling?

Right now instead of being this really cool departure from traditional classes, the battleframes in Firefall just feels like really lame versions of classes in other fantasy MMORPG, without the distinct storylines or really different play styles for each class. I hear various other complaints about the game, but they haven't bothered me given my casual attitude. If anything is going to kill the game, my bet is on leveling up individuals battleframes.

[Rhym]

It's like you've never heard of mmos before. Do you think WoW levels your alts for you automatically? Yes levelling a new class is essentially the same as levelling a new battleframe in FireFall. Also you can level a frame to 40 in 2-3 days if you play a lot, GRATS YOU'RE DONE WITH FIREFALL! Next game.

[SomeUnregPunk]

Perks. You get perks if you level the frames before the frame that you want. ... if you don't want to do that, you can pay for a frame and a for xp boosts till you are max level,

[Arctic Kyros]

I have to agree i do hate haveing to v over and over but 1-24 is the most painfull after that its fairly smooth sailing with OCT and BWA

[Nikke]

Leveling individual classes isn't a problem, but the way you do it in this game is something else. You just keep spamming the job board, doing the same quests over and over again.

[Arctic Kyros]

Автор сообщения: Nikke

Leveling individual classes isn't a problem, but the way you do it in this game is something else. You just keep spamming the job board, doing the same quests over and over again.

lol i gave up doing them drom day 1 they came out i guess im more old school and just spam events and thump every once in a while

[MADAO]

Автор сообщения: rhym

It's like you've never heard of mmos before. Do you think WoW levels your alts for you automatically? Yes levelling a new class is essentially the same as levelling a new battleframe in FireFall. Also you can level a frame to 40 in 2-3 days if you play a lot, GRATS YOU'RE DONE WITH FIREFALL! Next game.

I was under the impression that battleframes in this game are basically tools to expand the playing freedom of one character. As I asked, I thought rhetorically but evidently you don't think so, are battleframes no better than lame versions of classes in other MMORPG?

[MADAO]

Автор сообщения: SomeUnregPunk

Perks. You get perks if you level the frames before the frame that you want. ... if you don't want to do that, you can pay for a frame and a for xp boosts till you are max level,

I am level 14 and have 2 perk point so far. I have a rudimentary understanding that I many perks are either unlocked by certain level with a frame (10 seems to be the most relevant to me atm) or are specific to certain frames. I don't see why I should level some frames so I an use the perks in others, but I take it you think it's a good thing?

I understand your second point. Obviously asking for money to increase grinding speed, or perhaps max level frames will be sold at some future date, is a way to generate revenue. I have no argument against that, other than since I am unwilling to pay for that, the grind still kills the game for me.

[LupisVolk]

Wait? Am i weid for liking the fact that i have to level all my BattleSuits one after the other?

[MADAO]

Автор сообщения: ArcticFox

Автор сообщения: Nikke

Leveling individual classes isn't a problem, but the way you do it in this game is something else. You just keep spamming the job board, doing the same quests over and over again.

lol i gave up doing them drom day 1 they came out i guess im more old school and just spam events and thump every once in a while

I do agree that by itself, leveling individual frames isn't an issue. I rather enjoyed the different storylines in SWTOR, though the reused planets bothered me a bit. I have also played certain single player RPG, which of course have basically the same plot, using different characters that played significantly different. Unfortunately , neither of which applies to Firefall.

I have considerable resistance against grinding events or dungeons or such things. They are more palatable if I have more freedom in playing style, such was the case in GW1 when I often changed skills for the hell of it. It's the reason why I lament grinding the different frames. If I have numerous frames to play around, I don't mind grinding as much, but I need to grind to get those frames where I can use them.

[MADAO]

Автор сообщения: Suicidal_xAlpha

Wait? Am i weid for liking the fact that i have to level all my BattleSuits one after the other?

No, just different from me. There are no doubt others who think as I do, but you can comment specifically on me for simplicity.

Maybe I am the one who's weird. Maybe this grinding frame after frame is actually widely considered a plus for Firefall. I can respect that. However, I am pretty confident that the vast majority of professional reviews for Firewall will not consider it a positive quality, if not an outright negative one. But the jury is still out. If I see more praise than criticism, I will know my attitude is wrong about this part, and I will either quit or shutup.

[MADAO]

Автор сообщения: SomeUnregPunk

Perks. You get perks if you level the frames before the frame that you want. ... if you don't want to do that, you can pay for a frame and a for xp boosts till you are max level,

On second thought, I kinda agree with you that cross-frame perks can be fun. Instead of rewarding them for granting frame level, how about as rewards for certain achievement? The game already tracks plenty of them. For example, maybe healing others for 100K points with Biotech grants a perk related to survival to all classes. Or absorbing 50k worth of damage with Dreadnaught's shield. 500 headshots with Recon; maybe using stealth is a better achievement. What do you think?

[Makimera]

find someone to play with and you will enjoy the game much more, it's actully alot of fun teaming up and doing diffrent stuff. put time into enjoying the game insted of only having max level as the target :)

[SevenUp / TCA7]

This game always has required you to level up each one separately... it is NORMAL in most MMORPG's in the last 15 to 20 years.

[wishi]

Автор сообщения: SevenUp

This game always has required you to level up each one separately... it is NORMAL in most MMORPG's in the last 15 to 20 years.

Wrong !

1. The Characters dont have different story lines or RPG background.
2. The basic Characters are no use in the endgame. So you have to play this game at least two times. << and knowing this sucks.

[SevenUp / TCA7]

Wishi,

I HAVE played this game and I am CORRECT on leveling up each one.

MOST MMORPG's require you to level up each character on their games individually... It is a VERY VERY rare MMORPG that lets you have ONE level for all of your characters!

Get your facts straight!