ok, help me understand night of the dead

[thelittlegear]

I played the demo for a few minutes and immediately realised, this is my cup of tea, so i bought the full version.
I really like the setting, it's got this gritty piratey look and feel, very grounded, very serious (i despise anime-looking survival games)
I started a game in hard, because im a sucker for dark souls difficulty, and didnt find it too hard.

I didnt know a thing about the upcoming night because i hadnt watched any videos - i thought, well how hard can it be if they implemented a horde night on the first night already.
Having played many other "nighttime base defense survival games", i expected a few enemies which wouldnt be that hard to take down.
When the warning that the horde night was shown, i frowned... "kill 50"?
I just couldnt imagine what then started to pour into the (pre-build) fenced base... I was just about to restart the game thinking "ok, i have to rebuild and prepare faster", when i noticed that they died in one shot of the spear!

I was flabbergasted that this serious-looking, really pretty atmospheric game had just turned into bullet hell bullskit with a counter for the dead zombies (!!!) like it was some kind of bonus round in a streetfighter beatemup.
I mean: the enemies pop in one hit! They are simply balloons!
I was halfway through the "night" when i noticed my HP were nearing zero - again i was about to give up, when all of a sudden TADAAA
Full hitpoints again - oh, i just made a level, and in true Diablo manner, it refilled my HP!

At the end of the night, the counter said 841 killed enemies...

So, here is my plead:
PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS IMPLEMENTATION OF NIGHT OF THE DEAD
I know there is a setting where you can turn them off, so i m not going to refund it, because the rest was quite neat up to now.
But please tell me the reason for such a huge discrepancy to the look and feel of the daytime.
Please help me see that this is a good thing, or that there is some kind of reason behind it, or fun. Because i will tell this: right now, i NEVER want to see a night in this game again, EVER.

And please tell me there is nothing else in the game that gets down to that cheesy level of immersion-breaking difference to the main game loop?

[Krayzee]

The horde at night is NOT the focus in the game even if the title of the game says other wise.. Horde at night just gives you bonus exp and hard to get mods for your armour, and also more exp for your fairy so that it prepares you to fight the 4 main bosses in the game.

But if you want a challenging Horde night then don't play Hard Difficulty, play it on Custom Difficulty where you lower the damage of your traps and increase the health and damages of every monsters.

[thelittlegear]

Originally posted by Krayzee:

The horde at night is NOT the focus in the game even if the title of the game says other wise.. Horde at night just gives you bonus exp and hard to get mods for your armour, and also more exp for your fairy so that it prepares you to fight the 4 main bosses in the game.

But if you want a challenging Horde night then don't play Hard Difficulty, play it on Custom Difficulty where you lower the damage of your traps and increase the health and damages of every monsters.

So the Horde night is necessary to get experience... Aw, damn it.

Is there a setting to lower the numbers?

[Unscathed]

If you are okay with the "night of the dead" been on. Under custom game mode you can change how often that event occurs, from 1 to 5 days. You can also change " Night of the dead monster count" to lower, along with their HP and ATK.

[thelittlegear]

Can't believe there isn't a discussion amongst players about whether the horde night is at all suited to this game, or if it's fun...

[Unscathed]

Originally posted by thelittlegear:

Can't believe there isn't a discussion amongst players about whether the horde night is at all suited to this game, or if it's fun...

I agree, as for me I really don't see a reason for the night raid. Extra exp? sure i get it, But the raid nights get harder and gets boring with all upkeep and maintenance of traps.

[FriendlyGhost]

The level of the dead depends on the level of the player, the further you develop, the stronger the night monsters. After a couple of nights, your wooden traps will no longer be so easy to cope with an attack, especially if you let fat kamikaze men and giants through to them.
If you are confused by the number of monsters, set a smaller number of night monsters in the settings, but add their health and damage. It is also possible to reduce/increase the length of the night.
In addition to the experience for killing the undead, you upgrade the experience of your fairy and get a large number of fragments of stone Circles that can be profitably sold, and in the middle of the game used for crafting and improving equipment. Without night attacks, it is very slow to extract fragments and whole stones.

[thelittlegear]

I saw in custom game settings that you can reduce the numbers... by 50% maximum!
That would still be over 400 enemies for one night.

I see that this is more of a tower defense feature for the nights - the various traps increasing in harder-to-get materials make it perfectly clear that wooden traps ain't gonna cut it later 😨

I'm just so surprised that someone really thought of this as a good idea for this game, and even more surprised that there's not more of an uproar!

I have played for 4 hours now, and the "jank" and bugs they talk about in negative reviews are really minimal IMHO - also, I'm still running a 2070 card, and I can play in epic without problems. Everything I've seen until now, the first NPC camp, the combat system, the highly detailed handcrafted environment, is very high quality from my POV.

All the more I'm at a loss at what the night horde has to do with the day game...

[drizzt043_043]

i mean what i don't understand is why you think it has to have anything to do with the day time side of the game. it's an extra mode that gives you more to do. as for why nobody complains it's simple... you can turn it off.

[FriendlyGhost]

If you delve into the LOR of this game, then the notes contain information about the attack of night monsters. If
I partially agree with the futility of the night in the sense that monsters attack the player, not his base, thus there is no point in defending the base, you can just meet the night in any convenient place and you lose nothing if you miss/ lose the night.
It would be more logical if the construction of the main buildings (except walls and traps) was possible around certain flags, which would be attacked by monsters in addition to the player. And also a ban on putting these flags in unintended places inaccessible to monsters.