What game flow do most of you veterans prefer

[zhligw]

I did a search and one gamer said battle. Seems the meat of this game should be the combat
and managing units upgrades and heroes. The few games I've played were empire but I don't like playing this as just another 4X and when I do I tend to be too concerned with my empire building and auto resolve much of the battles just to quickly take over the other empires. In this
sense one would be better off just playing a 4x civ game like Galactic civilizations or Civilization.

So how do you play game flow wise?

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Ok i didnt really get that i am geusing you ask how we play?

In that case:
I prefeer ruthless effecenty.
I burn down towns i cant use or am about to lose.
I focus on defending my empire while destroying(note i said destroying not conquering) there's.
This works very well on my necromancer.

On my thoacrat i go all vassal and peaceloving(at the point of a crusaders blade ofcourse)
I learn that in this game relying on magic only gets you killed.
Troop numbers are key and i attack weakness and avoid strenght.

On sorceror i put a ruin(pun) of warding around everytown, get my eldric horrors research asap and then forcefull behind intercourse my enemies into submission with my eldric horror doom stacks.

[ThunderGr]

Different ways depending on Leader class and races(yours, opponents', independents if present, dwellings if present, treasure sites etc). No game is the same as another. It also depends on your map settings. Lots of things to take in account both overland and in battles. Cosmic events count.

What you ask is almost impossible. I could describe how I have played *a specific game* "flow wise" but I cannot describe a "standard" game flow.

[zhligw]

No, you aren't understanding my question. Guess I didn't make it clear enough. When you start a random map in the start menu (or do any of you play map mode? maybe you all play campaign?) Anywa,y in "random map" where you choose a map type to play on with the AI and as race etc all in the start menu for new game what do you pick for "game flow"?

I guess not to many of you play random map mode do you play a scenario then?

[ThunderGr]

You mean *that* game flow then :). I choose slowest game speed, with starting skills: None.
To be more precise, I set my game flow settings in the Advanced settings. I do not choose one of the presets. The amounts differ according to the game I want to play. I usually set: Settler, No cities, few to average dwellings, few to average Treasure and Visit sites, few to many Resource structures. Minimum to average treasures. Very low starting resources. Strong defenders. Many roaming units. I used to put weak start army but the AI has a hard time with it, so I put Medium to Battle, now. No roads and far starting distance. I think I have covered pretty much everything. I like Large to XLarge maps with Underground. Usually continents.
Also, No resurgent to Heroes.
And, Cosmic Happenings to Easy(for now. With my settings, I do not know if it would be fun for me to have the Boss Cosmic Happenings on turn 65!)

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Originally posted by zhligw:

No, you aren't understanding my question. Guess I didn't make it clear enough. When you start a random map in the start menu (or do any of you play map mode? maybe you all play campaign?) Anywa,y in "random map" where you choose a map type to play on with the AI and as race etc all in the start menu for new game what do you pick for "game flow"?

I guess not to many of you play random map mode do you play a scenario then?

You need to work on your communication skill.
That is called map settings.

In my case:
Extra large:
Everything random.
Terrian maxed out.
Overmap and subterrian.
Eight players(me and seven ai)
Slowest speed.
Starting resourses: mininal.
Starting skills: none.
No resurgancy on heroes(resurgency is for wimps)
Independse: 200.
Comsic event hard.
Heroes match race on.
Empire quests on:

I love rise to power stories.
Having everything random forces adaptation.
I adapt or i die.

[ThunderGr]

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Independse: 200.

Where is that setting? All I can set is number of cities and roaming armies...
Also, setting all random sounds interesting. Since I play at the hardest settings, I have avoided random because it can make the game quite easy...but I guess that everyone in the game plays roughly on the same grounds, so it may end up favoring the AI, after all.

[zhligw]

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Originally posted by zhligw:

No, you aren't understanding my question. Guess I didn't make it clear enough. When you start a random map in the start menu (or do any of you play map mode? maybe you all play campaign?) Anywa,y in "random map" where you choose a map type to play on with the AI and as race etc all in the start menu for new game what do you pick for "game flow"?

I guess not to many of you play random map mode do you play a scenario then?

You need to work on your communication skill.
That is called map settings.

In my case:
Extra large:
Everything random.
Terrian maxed out.
Overmap and subterrian.
Eight players(me and seven ai)
Slowest speed.
Starting resourses: mininal.
Starting skills: none.
No resurgancy on heroes(resurgency is for wimps)
Independse: 200.
Comsic event hard.
Heroes match race on.
Empire quests on:

I love rise to power stories.
Having everything random forces adaptation.
I adapt or i die.

No smart mouth it isn't called map settings has nothing to do with map type. Guess you need to work on your reading skills

[zhligw]

Originally posted by ThunderGr:

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Independse: 200.

Where is that setting? All I can set is number of cities and roaming armies...
Also, setting all random sounds interesting. Since I play at the hardest settings, I have avoided random because it can make the game quite easy...but I guess that everyone in the game plays roughly on the same grounds, so it may end up favoring the AI, after all.

My it seems I have a different game here, lol. Again its where you choose what kind of game you want to play It is the very first page you see when you launch the game.
"New campaign", "New scenario", "New random map".

[ThunderGr]

Originally posted by zhligw:

My it seems I have a different game here, lol. Again its where you choose what kind of game you want to play
"New campaign", "New scenario", "New random map".

We are talking about New random map settings. Well, at least *I* am talking about these settings. :)
And, as I said in my post, I do not choose any presets, I use the advanced settings and rules windows to set my preferences.

I also have empire quests on and I define maximum settings for seals and beacons. I turn on allied victory sometimes.

[zhligw]

Originally posted by ThunderGr:

Originally posted by zhligw:

My it seems I have a different game here, lol. Again its where you choose what kind of game you want to play
"New campaign", "New scenario", "New random map".

We are talking about New random map settings. Well, at least *I* am talking about these settings. :)
And, as I said in my post, I do not choose any presets, I use the advanced settings and rules windows to set my preferences.

I also have empire quests on and I define maximum settings for seals and beacons. I turn on allied victory sometimes.

Ok, I don't see advanced settings. Is it because I am playing in guest (offline)? I see all the other
settings you are talking about after I select "New random map" I set all these they are not "preset"

[ThunderGr]

Originally posted by zhligw:

Ok, I don't see advanced settings. Is it because I am playing in guest (offline)? I see all the other
settings you are talking about after I select "New random map" I set all these they are not "preset"

The "presets" are the window with the Circles where you can set the number of players, the size and the "pace" by using arrows. There is a button there somewhere reading "advanced".
If you click on that, you set all the individual settings I have said.
After that, you get to the screen with the selection of opponents. There, at the right side, there is another button reading "advanced rules". Clicking on that, you set additional settings that I have given but they are not on the "map settings".

[zhligw]

Never mind. I see what you are saying the advanced button after either new campaign, scenario, random map. but I set all those long before to what I wanted. But how do you like to play in general a civ 4x type game for more of a tactical battle?

[ThunderGr]

Originally posted by zhligw:

Never mind. I see what you are saying the advanced button after either new campaign, scenario, random map. but I set all those long before to what I wanted. But how do you like to play in general a civ 4x type game for more of a tactical battle?

You do not get these settings for campaigns, only for the other two.
I am afraid you will have to give me an example in order to answer that question. Perhaps you can state your preferences so that I can see what you mean?

[zhligw]

Originally posted by ThunderGr:

Originally posted by zhligw:

Never mind. I see what you are saying the advanced button after either new campaign, scenario, random map. but I set all those long before to what I wanted. But how do you like to play in general a civ 4x type game for more of a tactical battle?

You do not get these settings for campaigns, only for the other two.
I am afraid you will have to give me an example in order to answer that question. Perhaps you can state your preferences so that I can see what you mean?

That's okay you've told me what all your settings are and that is enough (thanks for your patients and help) I just left my settings forgot about them and started using just the other 3 which are more general.

It looks like most here like to play this as a sort of 4x empire game.Either its one or the other a don't like managing an empire and growing it and micro managing battles which require a different game all together for me. Really either its about the turn based battles and conquering other empires or running an empire and making my armies go to war. That's why I end up auto
resolving if I am trying to expand my empire and manage it. These are too different games to me. Its like playing Xcom and civilization in one game or need for speed and call of duty ha.
But that's just me I guess.

[ThunderGr]

Originally posted by zhligw:

It looks like most here like to play this as a sort of 4x empire game.Either its one or the other a don't like managing an empire and growing it and micro managing battles which require a different game all together for me. Really either its about the turn based battles and conquering other empires or running an empire and making my armies go to war. That's why I end up auto
resolving if I am trying to expand my empire and manage it. These are too different games to me. Its like playing Xcom and civilization in one game or need for speed and call of duty ha.
But that's just me I guess.

One of the greatest things with this game is that you can play it anyway you like and it is *amazing*. I am certain that others play the game the same way you do, it just happened that me and Malaficus like both the Empire Building *and* tactical combat parts of the game. This, of course, results in long games but they are interesting long games to us :).

Personally, I rarely autoresolve(only if I am tired and the specific battles are trivial or of no consequence for one way or the other-e.g. obviously lost[and I mean, 100% kind of obviously lost] or obviously won-) and I enjoy a healthy amount of micromanaging :D.