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Inverted full backs help
So am doing a save with Roma. My go to tactic was a 433. What I desire is that that 2 wingbacks invert into midfield, the DM(half back) drops to form a back 3 with the 2 central defenders. The other 2 midfielders move high and fill up the half spaces more like mezzalas and the 2 wingers be as wide as possible with an advanced forward.
This however is not going to plan. Am losing by a big margin like 2+ goals even against weaker teams!!! despite me having good possession, a higher xG.
How can I improve this tactic or it’s bound not to work?!
Any suggestions are welcome
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JasseBasse Dec 23, 2024 @ 12:26pm 
I love inverted fullbacks but they just dont seem to work in this most awesome best simulator evvaaa. Whenever I play with IFB it is impossible to keep clean sheets. I always get goals against me, specially those legendary 1 shot one goal by AI. When I switch to FB it looks much more solid.
I hope someone provides some insight as I am also very keen to learn how to mke them properly work.

EDIT: Sorry, my bad, I ment IWB. Inverted wing backs. My bad, sorry.
Last edited by JasseBasse; Dec 23, 2024 @ 12:27pm
DeathStroke Dec 23, 2024 @ 4:17pm 
well its hard to give much advice when you cant actually see someones tactic and instructions fully. where do you feel your team is failing? Im actually in the middle of a Roma save myself about to start my 4th season . I will say one of the biggest issues i had is that the team has very little pace , most of the defenders arent quick nor are the mid or forwards. what is the actual style your using? are you sitting deep , pushing high? direct , short ect ? Who are you using as the two central mids? I dont feel like any of romas midfielders are dynamic or athletic enough to be mezzelas who do a lot of ball carrying , i tried using pellegrini that way and didnt seem to be getting a lot out of him. I conceded a lot more goals than id like in the first season too , i just dont think Patricio is a very reliable keeper as his " command of area" is pretty low despite the rest of his stats being solid ( and the centre backs are slow ) so i made replacing him and improving the defence the priority in the next season . Hard to do when you are very much in debt and bleeding money constantly. I initially wanted to do a low-block counter attack tactic but had to give it up pretty quickly as the lack of pace in the attack was just too great , so i switched to a more possession based style keeping to a mid-block and moderate intensity pressing system. I had the LWB as an inverted but kept karsdorp as a traditional WB on the right as he he provided good crossing assists for me. I wanted to avoid using a 4-3-3 as i feel like i use that all the time , so after a couple seasons of tinkering ive landed on a 3-4-2-1 , with the 4 being two CWBs and two DMs , with Dybala droped back into the AMC role alongside Pelegrini . Its a pretty decently technical side with Pelegrini , Dybala ect available so try making the most of their skill , I assume your DM is Cristante? Bove develops well into a box to box style player but hes equally as good in the DM position apart from being weak in the air.
Damedius Dec 23, 2024 @ 4:28pm 
Not sure about this patch version in FM 24. They worked well in the last patch of FM 21. You could check out FM arena an see if there are any tactics for the current FM 24 patch that work well using Inverted Wingbacks.
It's simple, in a 4-3-3 the biggest weakest point is the defensive wings, if you place inverted full-backs in a more centralized position, the weaker it becomes, your wings become red carpets, you can use a defensive pivot in the middle up front from the defensive line and ask your central defenders to open up when the team is in possession of the ball and then make a line of 3 defenders behind, two defenders open and the defensive pivot in the middle, now use inverted laterals in a 4-3-3 Even so, it is to activate the instruction to maintain their positioning to prevent them from advancing beyond the midfield line, but it does not make sense to have a line of three defenders with defensive wingers closing in the middle and using mezzalas to open the defensive wings. they are yogurt for the opponent lol
- - And train the Defensive Pivot to "Always stay behind" "Play short and simple" option +-"come get game"
- In a 4-3-3, defensive wingers are the strength and weakness

The 3 defenders in a line will not save you having two inverted defensive wingers in the middle because the two central defenders who are lower when opening will create spaces between the 3-man line, the line of 3 defenders and good together with open defensive wingers who, when defending, create the 5-2-3 in a construction phase and a 3-4-3 in an attacking phase , you can transform a 4-3-3 into two different tactics in each phase of the game
Last edited by 𝔓𝔲𝔰𝔥𝔶; Dec 23, 2024 @ 6:49pm
But if you want to do this like everything in life, there is a solution... with the two Mezzalas opening from the middle to the wings and the defensive wings closing in the middle, all you have left is to put your wingers as defensive wingers and put the Mezzalas in attack mode, do a reverse, two mezzalas opening, two defensive wings closing and two wingers defending but that turns into 4-1-4-1
Last edited by 𝔓𝔲𝔰𝔥𝔶; Dec 24, 2024 @ 12:29am
Sam Dec 24, 2024 @ 9:34am 
For me, I'm not sure I see it working with the inverted full backs.

I imagine you having quite exposed flanks when the opposition comes forward, with your wingers cutting quite isolated figures when you're on the attack.

It feels like you'll have a congested midfield area, and be quite light defensively.
shabasm7 Dec 24, 2024 @ 9:50am 
I didn't have success with this in FM 24. This is what I used in FM 23.

Mentality: Positive

In Possession:
Play Out Of Defence
Work Ball Into Box

In Transition:
Counter Press

Out of Possession:
Higher Block
Higher Defensive Line
Much More Urgent
Prevent Short GK Distribution
Trap Outside

CF - At, W -S, Right MEZ - At, Left MEZ - Su, HB - De, BPD - De, IWB - De
Last edited by shabasm7; Dec 24, 2024 @ 9:55am
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