Football Manager 2024

Football Manager 2024

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RACHMANOVSKI Feb 20, 2024 @ 10:48pm
Asking for your tips: JD Cymru North: Llanidloes Town
I've just recently jumped from FM2019 to 2024.

The UI is jarring, but most of it functionally the same, albeit looks different.

Start a new unemployed saved, got Llanidloes Town, expected to Relegated but managed to finished mid-table.

The player are trash, nay, worse than trash, 16 years old new gens considered Cristiano Ronaldo by the club.

When they dribble there are good chance the player will trip, when they run with the ball there are good chance they'd run over the line, when there is clear cut chances 70% of the times it would be a goal because good lord my goalkeeper couldn't jump.

So my tactic is simple: Control possession, no dribbling, cautious/defensive, quick cross and shot whenever they can. (5-10 percent my trash striker can finish the job or at the very least create confusion so that the opposite GK (which is also trash) could make a mistake and allow some goals).

Now that the season is about to close and my contract renewed I plan to replace everyone with newgens when they arrive.

In your experience what is the best course of action? I planned for total rebuild so at the very least by the middle of next season everyone on my starting eleven will be replaced by newgens (hopefully) and the trashed sweeped out of contract.
Last edited by RACHMANOVSKI; Feb 20, 2024 @ 10:51pm
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Garuda One Feb 21, 2024 @ 1:21am 
In a league that bad my go to strategy is to find players with good physicals and go from there honestly. Are you planning to stay or do a journeyman save?
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RACHMANOVSKI Feb 21, 2024 @ 2:02am 
Originally posted by Garuda One:
In a league that bad my go to strategy is to find players with good physicals and go from there honestly. Are you planning to stay or do a journeyman save?
Journeyman.

I was originally planning to play in nordic country, but none of them accept me, figures I need a little bit experience. 1-2 season tops stayed in Wales, if thing doesn't work out.
Garuda One Feb 21, 2024 @ 5:12am 
My long term save has been Eastleigh in VNL>IFK Goteborg in Sweden working towards champions league. Been a lot of fun.

But that was my tactic when I was with Eastleigh. I sought out physically strong players and then signed youth players released from prem clubs. Got up to Skybet League One in 4 years doing that. I did end up shifting to a more controlled possession defense first tactic once I got out of the National league and had great success with that, but early on with no money it’s all about physicals IMO.
RACHMANOVSKI Feb 21, 2024 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by Garuda One:
My long term save has been Eastleigh in VNL>IFK Goteborg in Sweden working towards champions league. Been a lot of fun.

But that was my tactic when I was with Eastleigh. I sought out physically strong players and then signed youth players released from prem clubs. Got up to Skybet League One in 4 years doing that. I did end up shifting to a more controlled possession defense first tactic once I got out of the National league and had great success with that, but early on with no money it’s all about physicals IMO.
Duly noted, physical players.

Yep the club got no money, we have 500 euros for wage budget, my highest paid is like 35 eur per week and youth contract 6 euro/w for almost everyone.

It's insane, starting second season quite well won first 2 matches but I'm definitely gonna look to jump for Nordic clubs or Vanarama leagues for better odds to go up the ladder.
Centipede Feb 22, 2024 @ 7:55am 
Are they amateur or semipro? If they are semipro, sometimes players could accept amateur contracts if you promise them an appearance fee and then you can just not play them, effectively getting rid of their wages. Maybe you can see a player on an amateur contract doing well in the league, scoring goals - you can offer a contract anytime I think and there is a chance you get a good player.

Physical players are great. I wouldn't trust possession tactics at a low level, until I have a solid team I prefer to send the ball long so that it's away from my goal and close to their goal. In these leagues defender mistakes can create a lot of goals, so my priority is that my defenders give the ball to the opposition defenders. For the same reason, I prefer to have two strikers so that they chase mistakes and pressure defenders. And generally there aren't good enough passers to control the middle anyway.

One more thing is that beyond getting strong players who don't have terrible mentals, defence is not really going to be the difference maker at this level. Even getting one young striker that is too good for that division will carry the whole team on his back, so I search for them primarily.

I would also keep an eye on the youth players. In a previous FM, I was playing journeyman with an amateur team in N Ireland and in the first youth intake there were two decent 15 year old strikers. After playing them for a few matches they became so good that they were miles better than any defender in the league who couldn't stop them from scoring. Of course, they will go to a higher division team with the first chance, but if you can get them on a youth contract you might be able to have them for a season or two.
Last edited by Centipede; Feb 22, 2024 @ 8:07am
Centipede Feb 22, 2024 @ 8:32am 
A couple more tips I forgot (I can't edit my previous reply now for some reason).

You probably know this, but you can offer trials for 30 players at a time, so you could be trialling free agents all the time for free scouting. Better put them in the youth team if you have one so they don't disrupt the first team training.

In amateur teams I keep simple tactics with simple roles - so no volante and no mezzala, just plain CM and DM. Probably poacher unless a striker is gifted or physical, in which case they may pull off AF or PF/TF. I like to go on attack when I am a goal down and on defend when I am a goal up, because more subtlety would be lost on this sort of players.
Gurdi Feb 22, 2024 @ 12:09pm 
Just out of genuine curiosity, you have success changing from attacking mentality to defensive like that?

Do you play balanced when drawing? (Obv i suppose you're giving general guidelines but i find your method of play very unorthodox and interesting compared to what most players are doing.)
Centipede Feb 22, 2024 @ 12:39pm 
Originally posted by Gurdi:
Just out of genuine curiosity, you have success changing from attacking mentality to defensive like that?

Do you play balanced when drawing? (Obv i suppose you're giving general guidelines but i find your method of play very unorthodox and interesting compared to what most players are doing.)

I start on balanced and then switch it to attack, balanced or defend depending on the game state. On occasion I switch to positive when drawing if the opposition is a lot worse, since there may be a chance to control the game in that situation.

Of course, I've not done it very long and I would do it differently if I had better players or managed in a better league, but so far it is working well for me. It makes sense to me since I am a manager with no badges in a tiny team with players who aren't great at teamwork/mentals, so I wouldn't feel right doing anything too complicated. I guess it is the philosophy I picked for the lower league team, to make it bluntly clear what I want them to do.

It looks good in the highlights, as chasing a goal on attack seems to put plenty of pressure on the opposition to defend which they do badly, so I'm more often than not equalizing. When I go on defend, it looks like my players are intelligent enough to hold the ball cautiously and catch the opposing team on high XG counters, so again more often than not I end up increasing the difference. The team is mostly bad at conceding set pieces, which regularly make me change the plans.

As for success, I'd say it's going well and there is a noticeable overperformance with this approach, though it depends on what you'd consider success. The team was underperforming badly and fighting around relegation when I took them, ended in a comfy mid table position in the first season. In the second season, the prediction is 9th and early on we are 6th so in a playoff place, which is good for me.

As a disclaimer, I've played FM way too much over the years and done it all, so I'm not looking to do anything crazy, minmax or break the engine. I prefer to play sensibly and roleplay (I create rivalries with managers and don't speak to journalists that hate me or ask me the same question twice haha; I read about and take a look at the town on street view to see if I could consider living there, think about salary and rent and if I could at least find a side job if it's not enough). So I am usually content if I see my instructions reflected in the match engine and the players doing what I ask them to, regardless of the results. FM24 seems like one of the best at reflecting various instructions, provided the players don't hate me.
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Gurdi Feb 22, 2024 @ 1:16pm 
Thanks for the in depth response. Very interesting take. Glad to see your take also bringing pretty damn good success from what you've said.
I agree with your assesment of FM24 reflecting instructions better than most fm's i've played.

I like to force players into fun roles and complex stuff as much as i can with variable success (overperforming heavily to underperforming severely & sacked depending on how forceful i am.)

Glad to see a very realistic approach works too. Most players tend to pretty much NEVER switch mentality and use it as a baseline for their tactic from what i've seen and read.

For me it depends but you've encouraged me to tilt more towards changing more :D

(I also play alot of low level leagues haha, it's fun to me to try to get some complete numbskull players with potential playing some segundo or raumdeuter or roaming Playmaker :') )
Last edited by Gurdi; Feb 22, 2024 @ 1:17pm
RACHMANOVSKI Feb 24, 2024 @ 11:24pm 
Originally posted by Gurdi:
Just out of genuine curiosity, you have success changing from attacking mentality to defensive like that?

Do you play balanced when drawing? (Obv i suppose you're giving general guidelines but i find your method of play very unorthodox and interesting compared to what most players are doing.)

I can say that changing mentality to defensive doesn't mean your player stop trying to attack, if you posses the ball by defending they're more likely to attack.

I have relative success making Llanidloes Town a runner up (sadly not promoted) and have the strongest defend in the league.

Now I moved up to Haverfordwest, haven't lost a single match (yet) but changed my tactical style to Balanced, defensive/cautious if there are indication within early match that we can't keep up the ball, and positive/attacking if we are winning.

Switch my strategy to poaching released player from SkyBet League two, so far so good!
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