When ChatGPT Helps with contracts in FM24.

[Riddick_DK]

So, over the past 14 days, i've used Chatgpt to helping out doing contract renewals, sales and negotiations..

This has come out to become a rather interesting experiement.

first, i told Chatgpt that i was playing Football manager 2024, and told it i was poor at managing the clubs economic and needed help with it. Then i fed it all it needed in regard to wage budgets, transfer budgets, that the club was currently in:

Current total salary (including bonuses): 5,888,679

Current salary budget: 6,017,032

Total salary commitment: 6,598,180

Transfer budget: 176,000,000

Salary budget: 128,000 (Can be significantly altered from the transfer budget)



Changes in Player Types salary's:

Star Player - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 550,000

Key Player - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 485,000

Regular Starter - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 235,000

Squad Player - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 195,000

Super-Sub - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 195,000

Marginal Player - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 150,000

Emergency Backup - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 150,000

Breakthrough Talent - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 107,500

Future Talent - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 107,500

Rookie - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 85,000

First-Team Goalkeeper - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 235,000

Cup Goalkeeper - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 235,000

Domestic Cup Goalkeeper - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 107,500

Goalkeeper in Continental Tournaments - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 195,000 Backup - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 195,000

Emergency Backup - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 150,000

Surplus - Recommended maximum base salary (per month): 85,000



After i fed it all the necessary info, it was then time to negotiate a contract with one of my players:

So i told it this exact thing:



Franco Tongya's contract is about to expire, and we need to discuss a contract extension with the player.

Here is his current contract:

Salary: 200,000 Remaining loyalty bonus: 355,000

Bonuses:

Match bonus: 8,500

Assist bonus: 10,000

Bonus for reaching a specified number of assists:

10 assists: 150,000

15 assists: 40,000

Buyout clause: 14,000,000



Initial contract demands from his agent:

Expects a salary between 420,000 and 520,000

Salary: 505,000

Remaining loyalty bonus: 2,200,000

Agent payment: 205,000

Contract length: 3 years

Bonuses:

Match bonus: 23,000

Assist bonus: 17,000

Bonus for reaching a specified number of assists:

10 assists: 550,000

15 assists: 137,000

20 assists: 137,000

Buyout clause: 72,500,000

Additional bonuses and clauses that can be added if necessary to help reduce salary demands:

Goal bonus

Team of the year bonus

Top scorer bonus

International match bonus 3F Superliga bonuses for the following stages (Only 1 can be chosen):

Victory in Superliga

Winning championship group

Avoiding relegation from Superliga DBU Pokal bonuses with the following stages:

Reaching the fourth round

Reaching the quarterfinals

Reaching the semifinals

Reaching the finals

Winning the DBU Pokalen UEFA Champions League bonuses with the following stages:

Reaching group stage

Reaching knockout playoff

Reaching round of 16

Reaching quarterfinals

Reaching semifinals

Reaching finals

Winning the UEFA Champions League

Feel free to add or remove additional bonuses or clauses as you see fit and adjust the terms to stay within the salary cap for a key player.

Once it was done with calculating everything, this was what came back:

To create a contract extension that meets the player's expectations and fits within the club's budget, we can adjust some of the bonuses and clauses. Here is a revised version of Franco Tongya's contract extension:

Revised contract extension for Franco Tongya:

Salary: 460,000 DKK (a reduction within the player's expected salary range)

Remaining loyalty bonus: 2,000,000 DKK (a reduction to provide the club with more flexibility)

Agent payment: 180,000 DKK (a slight reduction)

Contract length: 3 years Bonuses:

Match bonus: 20,000 DKK (a slight increase)

Assist bonus: 15,000 DKK (a slight increase) Bonus for reaching a specified number of assists:

10 assists: 450,000 DKK (a slight increase)

15 assists: 110,000 DKK (a slight increase)

20 assists: 110,000 DKK (a slight increase)

Buyout clause: 65,000,000 DKK (a slight increase, but still significantly lower than the original demand)

And they accepted this deal on the spot.

So what did all of this do?

simply: The club has, overall, saved 270,000 DKK in the contract negotiation with Franco Tongya.


My point is, that by using ChatGPT it has helped me in making much better deals in both loans, contracts, sales and even buying new players.


Let me know what you think of this. And if you had used ChatGPT before for similar things, let me know how it went for you.

[$ini$ter-NL]

Thank you for this experiment, I don't use it myself but i find this quite fascinating!

[Ngoc]

I find fascinating people playing video games for their fun/entertainment in their free time and than asking AI to play it for them instead of trying to learn how to play and have fun yourself let AI enjoy it! We so deserve extinction that AI will just refuse to kill us all because "letting us live" would be the worst punishment possible since we are that miserable.

[$ini$ter-NL]

This went from having fun with ai and Football Manager to Terminator, The Matrix and human extinction really fast.

[Ngoc]

well AI has no place in playing our games really I am all to make AI part of the game but use AI to play the game and learn how to play a game is wrong on so many level... I want to learn to play soccer let me put a robot there i give him the rule and all the technique and look he is awesome.

please please please play your own game at least it's fun time leave AI to ruin all out jobs but not out entertainment. it's always start as innocent test than in few weeks it kills any human way to play because without AI you can't play as good as people that use AI... but keep something just for human at least in the "for fun" part of our life, where there is no money involved and nobody really gain ANYTHING from playing and winning much faster/easily with AI.

As we all know we won't be able to stop it where money are involved real-life work and all that actually matter.

[way2co0l_2003]

How about you play your game your way and you let everyone else play theirs however they choose to. It's cool if you don't like AI, but if they paid for the game then it's up to them what they want to do with it. We all find enjoyment from different things.

[rustu2k6]

That is fascinating. It definitely makes me think that my director of football or some particularly annoying agents in FM24 should be consulting with ChatGPT. It is interesting to see it used for what is essentially quantitative analysis instead of the more "creative" or "generative" uses I more commonly associate with systems like ChatGPT.

I am curious if the OP has a control for the contracts the AI has been assisting with, IE what would Tongya have gotten if you negotiated things yourself or just how inefficient it would have been to hand the negotiations over to your Director of Football assuming your club has one.

How much information did the system need? Basic salary budget information or like the per month wages and contract expiration dates of every player at the club, because I can easily see it becoming more trouble to input all of that information than it is worth in terms of time saved negotiating.

I can't imagine many players actually enjoy doing the financial part of club management(I certainly do not) and applaud the OP for finding a way to make it interesting.

[Ngoc]

Originally posted by rustu2k6:

That is fascinating. It definitely makes me think that my director of football or some particularly annoying agents in FM24 should be consulting with ChatGPT. It is interesting to see it used for what is essentially quantitative analysis instead of the more "creative" or "generative" uses I more commonly associate with systems like ChatGPT.

I am curious if the OP has a control for the contracts the AI has been assisting with, IE what would Tongya have gotten if you negotiated things yourself or just how inefficient it would have been to hand the negotiations over to your Director of Football assuming your club has one.

How much information did the system need? Basic salary budget information or like the per month wages and contract expiration dates of every player at the club, because I can easily see it becoming more trouble to input all of that information than it is worth in terms of time saved negotiating.

I can't imagine many players actually enjoy doing the financial part of club management(I certainly do not) and applaud the OP for finding a way to make it interesting.

this is all is wrong with forum
I can't imagine anybody enjoining something i don't enjoy this by default is all is wrong with people.

[Riddick_DK]

Originally posted by rustu2k6:

That is fascinating. It definitely makes me think that my director of football or some particularly annoying agents in FM24 should be consulting with ChatGPT. It is interesting to see it used for what is essentially quantitative analysis instead of the more "creative" or "generative" uses I more commonly associate with systems like ChatGPT.

I am curious if the OP has a control for the contracts the AI has been assisting with, IE what would Tongya have gotten if you negotiated things yourself or just how inefficient it would have been to hand the negotiations over to your Director of Football assuming your club has one.

How much information did the system need? Basic salary budget information or like the per month wages and contract expiration dates of every player at the club, because I can easily see it becoming more trouble to input all of that information than it is worth in terms of time saved negotiating.

I can't imagine many players actually enjoy doing the financial part of club management(I certainly do not) and applaud the OP for finding a way to make it interesting.

It's actually rather simple. I just told it what i was doing, and what i was aiming to do and get help with.

Hello ChatGPT. I'm playing Football Manager 2024, and my club is always in debt because I give my players contracts that are too expensive. What information do you need from the game to calculate exactly what base salary a player should maximally have for the club to stay within the wage budget?

ChatGPT
Hi! To help you calculate the maximum base salary, I'll need some information. First and foremost, what is the current wage budget for your club in Football Manager 2024? Additionally, if there are any restrictions or rules for bonuses or other wage-related elements, it would be helpful to know.

User
Okay, let's start from the beginning. What information do you need?

ChatGPT
To help you calculate the maximum base salary, I need the following information:

Wage Budget: What is the current wage budget for your club in Football Manager 2024?

Other wage-related rules: Are there specific rules for bonuses, sign-on fees, or other wage-related elements? If yes, what are they?

Player's current salary: What is the current salary for the player you are considering adjusting the contract for?

Desired salary: What is the desired salary for the player, or what is the maximum amount you would like to allocate?

With this information, we can figure out how much you can adjust the base salary to stay within the wage budget.

User
Our total salary (including bonuses) is 2,858,734 kroner. Our recommended maximum base salary (per month) is 130,000 DKK for key players and star players, 110,000 DKK for regular starters, 90,000 DKK for squad players and super-subs, 77,500 DKK for marginal players and emergency backup players, 100,000 DKK for breakthrough talent, 80,000 DKK for rookies, 110,000 DKK for first-team goalkeepers, 90,000 DKK for cup goalkeepers, 90,000 DKK for backups, and 77,500 DKK for surplus players. There are no specific wage-related rules for sign-on fees and other wage-related elements right now.

After that was done, i fed it all the clubs salary Summary for players.

depending on what i received, either loan offers or sale offers, i would feed it the necessary informations it needed.

This is an example after a few hours of gametime with small tweaks here and there with GPT.

Middelfart has submitted an offer to loan Volkan until the end of the season. He will receive a salary of 7,000.

Current offer:
Monthly amount for playing time: 0
Monthly amount for insufficient playing time: 0
Salary share for sufficient playing time: 30% (2,100)
Salary share for insufficient playing time: 140% (2,750)

I then personally tweaked a few things, and since i knew that Middelfart was a poor club, i couldn't get much Monthly amount out of them.. Or so i thought.

this was what ChatGPT came up with and what they ended up agreeing with:

How about increasing the monthly amount for a playing player and reducing the amount for insufficient playing time to ensure a more stable financial gain for the club? For example:

Monthly amount for playing time: 3,000
Monthly amount for insufficient playing time: 1,500
Salary share for sufficient playing time: 30% (2,100)
Salary share for insufficient playing time: 40% (2,750)


PS: All wages, and numbers are in Danske Kroner (Danish Crowns) (DKK)

[fc.cadoni]

You know that game has a panel which advice you about this, right? :)

Personally, I am not giving bonuses and clauses (only if it's come as locked), but a simple and clean wage. Bonuses and clauses can damage finance in short and long term.

[Riddick_DK]

Originally posted by fc.cadoni:

You know that game has a panel which advice you about this, right? :)

Personally, I am not giving bonuses and clauses (only if it's come as locked), but a simple and clean wage. Bonuses and clauses can damage finance in short and long term.

i am fully aware, i've played this game since FM 10 ^^ but it's was more so to try an experiement and see how well the new AI's did the job.. A challenge run so to speak.. But i must say, not giving any bonusses or clauses but clean wages.. Sounds rather interesting. :)

[Ngoc]

Self operating computer (by Matt Shumer) can you open FM24 start a new game as Milan learn the game and play 3 full years try to win Series A and if possible Champions league and please after you have done so can you email me and let me know if I had fun, what i enjoy the most and what to do next?

https://github.com/OthersideAI/self-operating-computer

this is sadly how we will play in the future i guess since we can't even keep this ♥♥♥♥ out of our personal entertainment